Tollywood
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Somebody ought to remind DJ Ashba that the Axis is far superior choice to the Les P@ul. It's like he's trying to become Slash. Really, lose the tophat. Lame.
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dwells
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cheers guys! i have not been approached by any companies lately, i just thought it was a good question to ask!
i wont be changing my guitars anytime soon , since ive been playing them now for over 10 years and nothing comes close to the Luke,axis silo etc that ive owned and own
cheers
i wont be changing my guitars anytime soon , since ive been playing them now for over 10 years and nothing comes close to the Luke,axis silo etc that ive owned and own
cheers
Big Poppa
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Ive known dj for years...he claims that the management is making him play gibsons...but Im sure he tells gibson what they want to hear. DJ sold some of his stuff that we gave him a party foul
dwells
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i hate seeing top profile artist sell guitars they've been given for free online and palm them off for like 10.s of thousands$$$$$ unless its Marty Friedman!!!!
Music Man
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I have thought about it before and I have come to a conclusion: If you are just doing it for the money, then do what you have to do to make money. If it means endorsing a product that you may not particularly like but that may help your bank account then go for it.
BUT, if you are in it for the Love of playing music, then from that love should spring loyalty, and being loyal to the brands that have supported you when you were unknown, not necesarily by giving you anything or making anything specificaly for you, but by being supportive of you when you were just a consumer.
Sorry for rambling I hope it makes sense.
BUT, if you are in it for the Love of playing music, then from that love should spring loyalty, and being loyal to the brands that have supported you when you were unknown, not necesarily by giving you anything or making anything specificaly for you, but by being supportive of you when you were just a consumer.
Sorry for rambling I hope it makes sense.
Tanax
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ScoobySteve
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I didn't understand this, anybody care to clarify?
BP has spoken about this topic at length before and in a nutshell, basically saying that retailers like Guitar Center have limited space to showcase guitars and signature models simPly don't sell very well. The famous company models are the sellers. Think "strat" or "les Paul" the immediately identifiable models.
SomeOne please correct me if I misspoke at all.
straycat113
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First I have no idea who DJ Ashba even is so I had to Google him and the first picture I see is of him with a white tricked out Axis with all decals that looked really cool, and then with a Black Gibson. I find that pretty low to sell gear given to you especially if he is a player of that calibre that is in what I guess would be a known band today.If he was a struggling player that was hot then found himself playing in bars and was broke I could understand, but either hold onto it or just give it to a friend that is trying to make it and could not afford a top pro level ax as it kind of looks hard up selling it on ebay or something. Then again I really do not know how much he could of gotten as he may be an excellent player but he is no household name. I think the Gibson thing may have to do with him now being in G&R's as they may want the Slash tone and it could be possible Axle or his management made him go in that direction but he sure as hell cut his throat here, as I would believe if he called Sterling and thanked him and told of his predictament the door probably would of been left open. Then again Axles has had close to 10 guitarist in the last 15 years with one album to show for it, and who the hell knows when or if another will be made or when a tour is due. Also as someone who was a huge G&R fan and saw them quite a few times this is not G&Rs it is Axle and guest and I have no intrest at all at seeing this -whatever you want to call it.
Jimmyb
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I've been in the position in a past life (not musical) where I've been offered a deal to use equipment that wasn't my own choice.
In the end, I turned it down, because the quality wasn't great and I didn't feel right using it.
Consequently, if a rip opens up in the space-time continuum and somebody is ridiculous enough to offer me a guitar endorsement, I'd turn it down.
In the end, I turned it down, because the quality wasn't great and I didn't feel right using it.
Consequently, if a rip opens up in the space-time continuum and somebody is ridiculous enough to offer me a guitar endorsement, I'd turn it down.
I think you have to ask yourself if you truly believe in the product and company you are asked to endorse.
There have been many high profile individuals who have signed with companies that were completely committed to creating a better product with that individual in mind (Nike golf and Tiger Woods for example). Nike golf was not even on the map before Tiger signed with them. Their focus was to create a successful product offering with Tiger being the driving force behind the brand image. Arguably, it worked. Now, that might be a bad example because: 1) at one time Tiger could have bottled his own sweat and made millions on it. 2) Nike threw a s#*!ton of cash his way (so financially, it made all the sense in the world) 3) he had a clause in his contract that allowed him to play whatever clubs he wanted to play as long as his bag was NIKE. 4) He's Tiger Woods.
On the flip side, I know a few professional athletes who signed with a company that offered them cash and product and retainers and and and...... They never really bonded with the product, never were treated with any individual respect from the sponsor.....they were just another number in the companies eyes, and as a result weren't excited to represent the company beyond the initial "honeymoon" phase. They were never truly happy....and yes they got paid, but the relationship didn't work. It ended up having an impact on their outlook toward the sport they loved and toward the business side of being a pro.
BP already said that no company was going to pay anyone to play their guitars. So, money aside, do you truly believe in the product / company that you are asked to endorse? And do they believe in you?
Soul Searching........
There have been many high profile individuals who have signed with companies that were completely committed to creating a better product with that individual in mind (Nike golf and Tiger Woods for example). Nike golf was not even on the map before Tiger signed with them. Their focus was to create a successful product offering with Tiger being the driving force behind the brand image. Arguably, it worked. Now, that might be a bad example because: 1) at one time Tiger could have bottled his own sweat and made millions on it. 2) Nike threw a s#*!ton of cash his way (so financially, it made all the sense in the world) 3) he had a clause in his contract that allowed him to play whatever clubs he wanted to play as long as his bag was NIKE. 4) He's Tiger Woods.
On the flip side, I know a few professional athletes who signed with a company that offered them cash and product and retainers and and and...... They never really bonded with the product, never were treated with any individual respect from the sponsor.....they were just another number in the companies eyes, and as a result weren't excited to represent the company beyond the initial "honeymoon" phase. They were never truly happy....and yes they got paid, but the relationship didn't work. It ended up having an impact on their outlook toward the sport they loved and toward the business side of being a pro.
BP already said that no company was going to pay anyone to play their guitars. So, money aside, do you truly believe in the product / company that you are asked to endorse? And do they believe in you?
Soul Searching........
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straycat113
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It all comes down to sales these days and if your band takes off and makes a name for itself I am sure you will have quite a few people throw endorsements your way. Till this day I can still remember Patty Smyth from Scandal being on the Howard Stern show and she said she just recieved her first royalty check from the duo she did with Don Henley -Sometimes Love Just aint Enough- which was a #1, and Stern kept pressing her on how big the check was until she finally gave in and said 500K. So as Sterling said your bands music is what is going to make you, and I will add make you wealthy if lucky. There are a ton of really talented players out there but you still have to have an audience which will seperate you from the pack.
DaPatrooch
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Like others have said it would depend on the situation. If I was struggling for money, then perhaps yes. I believe that with tweaking or maybe custom options or specs pretty much any company could make a guitar that I at least somewhat like. Hopefully the endorsement deal wouldn't make me use that brand exclusively, so then I could play EBMM guitars most of the time. Although I'm sure whatever guitar it would be would have a place in a certain song for a certain type of tone, I don't know...
However, if I were a hugely known artist with tons of money from touring and hit songs and such, then no, I wouldn't accept said endorsement.
However, if I were a hugely known artist with tons of money from touring and hit songs and such, then no, I wouldn't accept said endorsement.
straycat113
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I guess there are more ex players out there who hit hardtimes than we would realize, as I have been seeing quite a bit of lower end players that played in somewhat semi-famous bands selling off gear as of late and the prices are rather modest. As I tried to stress in the last post I would be more psyched to have been endorsed that I could have a company I love build me some guitars I love to my specs ,kind of like Bonamassa than to get involved in the money side of things. Look at a long list of God like players like Keith Richards or Bruce Springsteen to name two who do not have a sig because they dont want one. Springsteen was intrigued by the relics of a certain company and wanted one of his famous Esquire done, and then was asked about doing a run of 100 to which he said that is 99 too many. Jeff Beck was asked a few years before Clapton to do a sig and said no, so for whatever the reasons there are many legendary guitars and players who are not into it for some reason or another.
