y2d with luke neck -the dream guitar

[beej]

This is kind of a crazy discussion.

Shimi, have you played a Morse or a Luke? If not, how can you possibily suggest one has a better neck than the other? You've got to play them to see what the difference is- everybody's review is going to be different.

Find a place that has a few EBMMs in stock. Play them. Figure out if you really like one of them and if so buy it.

If you want "half of this, half of that" then either get set to do the work yourself or buy another brand

 

[shimi]

As tommyindelaware stated, "Putting a Luke Neck on a Morse body will leave a gap." It will work, however, it will not be up to standard...meaning the gap. I personally know, EBMM will not let the guitar leave the factory that way. So, they would have to re-do the body of the Morse to compensate for the Luke neck. That would be another program, shutting down the factory, to pump out this body to test fit a Luke neck, make sure it is up to EBMM standards and so on. NOT cost effective. Again, Tommy re-shaped his morse neck and that is the most viable option. In Amerca, money talks....sure. But, you have to have the company that makes that particular brand bite. It will not happen here.

The guitars built for the artists are first and foremost for the endorsed artists. This is a no brainer. One of the big reasons artist models sells so well, it is because of the artist as peeps like to buy the same guitar as their heroes. However, EBMM makes the "EXACT" model for the artist with the consumer (us, the customer) having to like those specs. Who am I to tell Steve Morse that he needs to change to a LUKE neck? It simply will not be beneficial to start changing necks around at the factory....again, a gap will certainly not please most customers and will look like garbage....and then Big Poppa will have to deal with the outcry from people who are never satisfied. Believe me, the crying like the Mississippi river, constantly flowing.....

Simply put, Luke neck on a Y2D body out of SLO will not happen. Again, re-shape a Morse will be your best option.

endorsed the artist ??? yes , do you know how many artist there is out there that you have never even heard their names??? i wonder when they will start to endorsed non famous artist ??? never cause its not sell

about the money issue - if i will come now the MM company and tell them build me y2d+ luke neck spec .........and ill pay for example 20.000 $ they will say no ??? or maybe 50.000 $ just for example.


any way its hypothetic conversation , but every thing possible the only question its coast & profits

 

[Mick]

I remember visiting the factory in 1994 and asking for a EVH with a then Luke1 neck.
It was a very friendly NO WAY unless you buy both....

 

[shimi]

I remember visiting the factory in 1994 and asking for a EVH with a then Luke1 neck.
It was a very friendly NO WAY unless you buy both....

Really ??? which means the price for my idea only coast 2 guitars ???? that is fair enough

cause people wrote here forget it no custom made............HA

 

[shimi]

This is kind of a crazy discussion.

Shimi, have you played a Morse or a Luke? If not, how can you possibily suggest one has a better neck than the other? You've got to play them to see what the difference is- everybody's review is going to be different.

Find a place that has a few EBMMs in stock. Play them. Figure out if you really like one of them and if so buy it.

If you want "half of this, half of that" then either get set to do the work yourself or buy another brand

yep , i played Luke & old morse not the y2d not yet

 

[kbaim]

Now that I think of it, I'm sure Dudley and Sterling wouldn't mind doing this for you. Try calling them.

...Please don't mention my name though.

 

[shimi]

I remember visiting the factory in 1994 and asking for a EVH with a then Luke1 neck.
It was a very friendly NO WAY unless you buy both....

when im reading what you wrote its just proving again that many people like the neck of luke , but not the body / or prefer other body instead why ???

is it a matter of the look ???

or the pickups ???

maybe you can share with us why you wanted this change ???

 

[shimi]

Now that I think of it, I'm sure Dudley and Sterling wouldn't mind doing this for you. Try calling them.

...Please don't mention my name though.

Hey , thinking creatively , nice , now you're talking man.........

but unfortunatlly i dont have a clue who is Dudley or Sterling and defentlly dont know any phone number .........

but i like your attitude & spirit ......

 

[kbaim]

Dudley = main designer there
Sterling = head of company

BTW there's plenty of people that prefer the Morse neck over the Luke, though I'm not one.

 

[shimi]

Dudley = main designer there
Sterling = head of company

BTW there's plenty of people that prefer the Morse neck over the Luke, though I'm not one.

probably they are , but i noticed that when people talking about the luke they

mention mostly the neck or lets put it that way the neck is the jewel, maybe this is the strong side of this guitar

 

[NorM]

however, that is not good business sense.

One time you said one of the things you liked about me was that I called them like I see them. Bunches of OT stuff not stated here.

Again, if you like the looks of the Y2D (good choice) and the neck of the Luke (Awesome), get the Y2D and have it re-shaped to the Luke profile which is something that can be done I am sure. It's not rocket science....or is it? NorM?

You are correct again sir. I would put this under the catagory of "Art". There are some very good luthiers out there. I like to encourage people to do what ever they want to their guitars. That makes it truly a custom guitar and yours.

 

[beej]

yep , i played Luke & old morse not the y2d not yet

Ah, ok. So you are sold on the Luke neck, then. It is awesome (so is the Y2D, though.)

Well, all I can tell ya is that the answer is no- EBMM doens't run a custom shop. If you want to debate for fun, keep posting. However if you actually want a bit of both, you've got two choices:

Buy both guitars and swap the necks. Sure, you'll have a slight gap but I'm sure you can put a small shim in there or get a luthier to fill in the gap.

Buy a Y2D and, as has been said, shave down the neck. Tommy did this for me on my old Morse, and the neck is incredible. Voids your warranty, but you end up with the neck profile you want.

 

[DaveB]

Hey Shimi,

Good to see new people on here....welcome aboard.

BTW - Big Poppa = Sterling Ball = owner of Ernie Ball Music Man and all round head honcho (and amazingly nice guy - just in case he's reading ).

I think its time to stop flogging a dead horse though. I'm afraid you cant get the factory to build you the exact guitar you want (if its any consolation I cant get the one I want either - I tried to get a Blue Flame Axis Super Sport with piezo and solid rosewood neck - nothing doing).

Strikes me that buying the Morse and customising it is your only real option - if you let us know where you are then I'm sure we can recommend a luthier who can be entrusted to give the neck a Luke profile.

Take it easy

Dave

 

[shimi]

Ah, ok. So you are sold on the Luke neck, then. It is awesome (so is the Y2D, though.)

Well, all I can tell ya is that the answer is no- EBMM doens't run a custom shop. If you want to debate for fun, keep posting. However if you actually want a bit of both, you've got two choices:

Buy both guitars and swap the necks. Sure, you'll have a slight gap but I'm sure you can put a small shim in there or get a luthier to fill in the gap.

Buy a Y2D and, as has been said, shave down the neck. Tommy did this for me on my old Morse, and the neck is incredible. Voids your warranty, but you end up with the neck profile you want.

dave wrote :" I think its time to stop flogging a dead horse though. I'm afraid you cant get the factory to build you the exact guitar you want ".....



Mike wrote :"I remember visiting the factory in 1994 and asking for a EVH with a then Luke1 neck.
It was a very friendly NO WAY unless you buy both.... "

Kbaim wrote :" Now that I think of it, I'm sure Dudley and Sterling wouldn't mind doing this for you. Try calling them.



never say never , but my idea was not to build this for me !!!

as i said if the company see that many clients are interesting in that combination ,so why not ????

 

[koogie2k]

One time you said one of the things you liked about me was that I called them like I see them. Bunches of OT stuff not stated here.

Absolutely NorM....no beating around the bush with you. I really enjoyed the many conversations we have had and will have down the road. You sir, are a one of a kind.....that is hard to find now a days.

 

[Colin]

as i said if the company see that many clients are interesting in that combination ,so why not ????

Shimi, do a search of the forum and I think you'll find you're the first to suggest the idea. What ever you decide to get, I think you'll be more than happy with. My goal is to have one of each. Next question?

 

[beej]

never say never , but my idea was not to build this for me !!!

Here's the deal with artist models (e.g. Luke, Morse, Y2D, etc.): they're *exactly* what the artists play, and no different. So unless you convince Steve Morse to play with the neck on Luke's guitar, it just ain't gonna happen. (Or if you people really great friends with Big Poppa and he decides he owes you a huge favour.)

As DaveB says, it's just beating a dead horse here. EBMM is not the kind of company that's going to stop and build you a one-off of these models. (You might see a one-of-a-kind guitar for the CLB charity auctions, but I don't think you'll see an artist model done up like that.)

If you like the Luke neck so much, why don't you buy a Luke? It's an awesome guitar. (If your answer is "no", and you still want a mix of two different guitars that EBMM builds for you at the factory so you don't have to get your hands dirty, then I think you're going to be waiting a long time for your guitar ... )

 

[shimi]

Shimi, do a search of the forum and I think you'll find you're the first to suggest the idea. What ever you decide to get, I think you'll be more than happy with. My goal is to have one of each. Next question?

Hi colin

maybe you right , and its just my imagination that other people want it too.....

or maybe i just jumped to conclusion when i saw the new amazingly beautifull

y2d and i red everywhere else how people get exited from the Luke neck ......

and maybe if ill just try the y2d it will be more than enough for me

probably i wont feel big differences between them after all {the neck spect}.....

actually i red somewhere that the y2d have a slimmer neck & upgraded somehow is it so???



im gonna go soon to Helsinki and try them all and compare them one next to each other

 

[shimi]

Here's the deal with artist models (e.g. Luke, Morse, Y2D, etc.): they're *exactly* what the artists play, and no different. So unless you convince Steve Morse to play with the neck on Luke's guitar, it just ain't gonna happen. (Or if you people really great friends with Big Poppa and he decides he owes you a huge favour.)

As DaveB says, it's just beating a dead horse here. EBMM is not the kind of company that's going to stop and build you a one-off of these models. (You might see a one-of-a-kind guitar for the CLB charity auctions, but I don't think you'll see an artist model done up like that.)

If you like the Luke neck so much, why don't you buy a Luke? It's an awesome guitar. (If your answer is "no", and you still want a mix of two different guitars that EBMM builds for you at the factory so you don't have to get your hands dirty, then I think you're going to be waiting a long time for your guitar ... )

yea ....... im totally not a handy man ........i wish i can get my hands dirty and do it my self but if its a matter of patience - this is not a problem for me



i think as a sells man {in my past} it will be much more easy for me to convince Steve morse to play on luke neck

or to ask Steve that he will resahped his neck to v-shape on his spec'...

 

[shimi]

Shimi, do a search of the forum and I think you'll find you're the first to suggest the idea. What ever you decide to get, I think you'll be more than happy with. My goal is to have one of each. Next question?

It wiil be nice if MM will make a poll and ask thier clients something like

1 - how many years are you playing ?

2 - are you a pro / amatuer ?

3- which MM you own ?

4 - which of our MM model you like most and why ?

5 - which best combination of our guitars will be suitable for you ?


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