Tremel-NO...need advice

[brentrocks]

COOL!

i think i will try one!!

 

[Spudmurphy]

I haven't seen Kevan around in a while - the guy who invented the tremol - no.

He hangs around here from time to time, what I have read about them though is good.

I remember there being some video clips on his web site about it too.

 

[peat]

ha yes
there were funny as clips with a famous guitarist
cant remember which one, marty friedman?

they did this great thing
where kevan got a pair of pliers and cut a string as the guitarist was holding it

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

I just blocked one of my guitars with wood.

You said wood....

 

[mesadualrec]

ha yes
there were funny as clips with a famous guitarist
cant remember which one, marty friedman?

they did this great thing
where kevan got a pair of pliers and cut a string as the guitarist was holding it

The guitarist is Rob Balducci,he is awsome

Im also on the verge to buying one for my JP as a Friend has recently installed one on his but he said you did need some sort of extra part for the JP as it didnt fit first time around

 

[morsecode]

brent you just need to rob the local bank and get yourself a new hardtail EBMM or two or three.

 

[Devnor]

Fashion a piece of wood into a wedge to hold the trem where you want.

Use the $75.00 for something else; like a new BFR! Or a pet rock...it does about the same thing

 

[brentrocks]

i ended up doing the wood thing...LOL

 

[jpmrulez]

Blocking a JP6

I'm thinking of blocking my JP6 trem with a piece of wood. How exactly should I install the piece to the guitar? Right now I don't remember what's the cavity like. Should I glue it to the guitar or what? Kinda noobish, I know

Thanks!

 

[Kevan]

Hey folks!

Sorry I haven't been around much. The Tremol-No has taken off like I never imagined. I'm trying to keep up with all the forums, but....
I need 27 hours in a day.

I'm glad to hear that my EB/MM brethren are having a good time with the T-No's on their rides. (There was even a pseudo-compliment from Jeffrey in the thread!)

To answer some of the questions:
- The REAL player in the Demonstration video is Rob Balducci. The hack to the left is me.
- With the Clamp-type units (discontinued last year), the EB/MM Adapter Plate is necessary. The EB/MM Adapter Plates are available only through UniversalJems.com (I shipped them all of them).
- With the Pin-type units (what's shipping now), the EB/MM Adapter Plate is *not* necessary.
- I know the Installation videos are as dry as a Dargie martini, but aren't all installation videos? I'll try to spice them up in the future. Maybe ask Luke and Big Poppa to do a "who's on first" rendition in the background.....

If anyone has any questions, you're welcome to email, IM, or call. There's also a forum over on the Tremol-No.com site. I tend to hang out there these days.

Brent- sorry to hear about the wood block. Let me know when you change your mind. We'll get you all hooked up.

Again, I'm glad to hear you guys (and gals) are having a good time with your Tremol-No units. I'll cruise back as often as I can.
Thanks everyone!

Oh- and don't forget to play tonight!

 

[Big Poppa]

kevan both Jeffrey and Brent are banned.....

 

[candid_x]

I've blocked with wood on G&L floaters, and just loaded springs on other trem guitars, including my Silos.

But the Tremol-No appears to be a simple and ingenious little device.

 

[Kevan]

Thanks for the update, BP.
If I don't see ya around here, I'll stop by and say hello in January.
Keep makin' kickazz gear!

 

[petruccirocks02]

I have one of the earlier ones installed on my JP. I was nervous about installing because at that time there was no installation video on the tremol-no website, and the directions were a bit unclear. That being said, I was able to install it in 20 minutes. It comes in very handy in a live situation on a gig and you won't need to switch guitars for drop-d tuning. As far as having the thumbscrews come off - I have avoided this problem by removing the thumbscrew and installing a cut down to size pickup height spring. This keeps tension on the screws and keeps them from getting loose and dropping off.

On the JP, you won't be able to reinstall the backplate as is. You will have to route some holes in it. I have not gotten around to doing this yet. This will help avoid getting the hardware caught on your clothes.

As far as it works - I've been happy with mine and it works as advertised.

I just ordered one the other day for my JP6. Since you said you can't put the backplate on as is, would you be able to post a pic of the holes you routed in your backplate or whatever for those of us who have JP6's? Much appreciated. Thanks.

-Phil

 

[Kevan]

Hey Phil!

You can find basic templates here:
http://www.tremol-no.com/support.asp
The 6- and 7-string "SuperStrat" templates will be very close to those on a EB/MM.

Those are just basic guidelines for where the access hole can be placed.
Depending on your personal setup, it may need to be shifted toward (or away from) the headstock slightly.

On *most* guitars, the Tremol-No will fit under the backplate.
It depends on the guitars setup, and on where the manufacturer drilled the claw screw holes.

I'll try to dig up a pic of a EB/MM-JPM-7 with a backplate that has an access hole and post it here.

 

[JPBlueDawn]

I think it's like slitting the wrists of Jesus when you sacrifice the beauty of a stock ernie ball. They are made the way they are for a reason. If GOD wanted us to piss in the face of beauty, every hot chick would have a cock on their forehead. Buy one without a trem.

j/k.... Thats cool. Phil, stop buying **** and pay up. I can't keep givin Jen the stinky pinky to keep her quiet. HAhahahahaha

Shawn

 

[petruccirocks02]

Hey Phil!

You can find basic templates here:
Tremol-No™
The 6- and 7-string "SuperStrat" templates will be very close to those on a EB/MM.

Those are just basic guidelines for where the access hole can be placed.
Depending on your personal setup, it may need to be shifted toward (or away from) the headstock slightly.

On *most* guitars, the Tremol-No will fit under the backplate.
It depends on the guitars setup, and on where the manufacturer drilled the claw screw holes.

I'll try to dig up a pic of a EB/MM-JPM-7 with a backplate that has an access hole and post it here.

Awesome, Kevan. Thanks. Shoot me a pm if you find that pic.

-Phil

 

[PaoloGilberto]

I may be interested in this , but I have 2 Q , pls help if you can:

1. Kevan says : "- With the Pin-type units (what's shipping now), the EB/MM Adapter Plate is *not* necessary." does that mean that with the pin type the back plate for a JP for ex fits back with no probl?

2. if I intend to use the tremol- No in floating mode most of the time , does it have some benefits on tunning stability, or its purpose is only to switch between
the 3 operating modes? (bridge blocked full/ dive bomb only/ full floating)

many thanks,

Paul

 

[Sosomething]

I had one in a Carvin with a Floyd for a while.

Functionally, it worked as advertised. Easy to install. Seemed to be made from very high-quality components and didn't add a lot of extra weight.

My issue with it was that, when locked, the hinge that holds the c-clamp (the part that grips the trem block) to the arm (the part connected to the claw that locks in place) had some play in it and would clink and rattle audibly (and tactiley) when I would do bends and vibrato.

It was very noticeable. You could lock the thing down, pluck a fretted note, and just throw a good normal vibrato on it and listen to little metal parts plinking against each other inside the trem cavity.

I even contacted the dealer and ended up replacing the whole arm assembly, but it had the same problem. The guy couldn't understand what my issue was - I think he thought I'd installed it improperly or didn't know how to use it. I'm very mechanically-minded.. My issue was due to a loose-fitting hinge pin in a non-adjustable part of the unit.

This was several years ago. Maybe their manufacturing tolerances are tighter now, but I'd hate to spend the money and go through installing one to find out.

 

[aleclee]

if I intend to use the tremol- No in floating mode most of the time , does it have some benefits on tunning stability, or its purpose is only to switch between the 3 operating modes? (bridge blocked full/ dive bomb only/ full floating)

in fully floating mode it's like the T-No isn't there so no tuning benefit unless you're dive-only or locked.