Still not sold on a Silo, need some forum help!!

[ShaneV]

ok cool. I was just afraid of them going the "heavy" route on this pickup. The metal strip reminds me of the old X2N's and boy did I hate that pickup.

Dimarzio rates their pickups by Ma output, the X2N comes out at 510 (their hottest passive) and the D-sonic is only 390, which is in the ballpark of the Tone Zone, and exactly the same as the Steve's Special.

 

[charlie7]

thanks Shane, I almost have my mind made up.

 

[whitestrat]

Biggest thing for me is this trem. I don't use the trem excessively like Vai, cause he basically beats his up , but a couple of my songs do require bar flutters and the satrinani, vai, timmons that I cover require some trem work as well.

Everything seems to be there except for the trem. Such a tough decision.

Honestly, the problem for you is not the trem. It can be set to floating, and will behave very nicely, obeying your every command.

No. The main concern for you is actually the lack of a locking nut on the Silo. Mainly because, without the locking nut, the strings shift in the nut (which doesn't cost you tuning problems). But what happens, is you have a longer string length compared to an FR system, which means your trem is NOT as sensitive as a FR. Even the floating bridge on the JP is like this, and the flutters aren't as aggressive as those on an FR, and also the bar pumps that JS and Vai do are more prounounced than on the JP6 trem mainly for this reason. But it's a minor issue, and unless you kill trems, this shouldn't be too much a biggie.

I still say, get a Silo. OR have you considered a Morse with FR?

 

[charlie7]

Honestly, the problem for you is not the trem. It can be set to floating, and will behave very nicely, obeying your every command.

No. The main concern for you is actually the lack of a locking nut on the Silo. Mainly because, without the locking nut, the strings shift in the nut (which doesn't cost you tuning problems). But what happens, is you have a longer string length compared to an FR system, which means your trem is NOT as sensitive as a FR. Even the floating bridge on the JP is like this, and the flutters aren't as aggressive as those on an FR, and also the bar pumps that JS and Vai do are more prounounced than on the JP6 trem mainly for this reason. But it's a minor issue, and unless you kill trems, this shouldn't be too much a biggie.

I still say, get a Silo. OR have you considered a Morse with FR?

I am actually considering a JPM as I really loved my lava pearl. It played perfect.

So I am going to consider getting a JP and also a JS1200

 

[charlie7]

maybe I shouldn't of told the forum I am considering a JS, I might get banned...

 

[whitestrat]

maybe I shouldn't of told the forum I am considering a JS, I might get banned...

Actually, if they ban people for that, they would have banned me before too... Look at my siggy...

I think what you choose to buy is ultimately up to you. But basically, this is an EBMM corporate forum, and it's just not polite to come talking about how good another brand of guitar is over an EBMM choice. (which is quite a stretch though...) But I think most of us here have the sense not to do that.

But back to topic, the reason why I like the JS so much is mainly the body shape. However, I didn't want to pay that much money for Ibanez build quality. I'd rather pay a bit more for an EBMM. But the Silos are closest to that body contour, and are extremely comfortable. So, I'd still get an EBMM.

I just wish I could get a Silo Spec in basswood and HH routing...

 

[floyd99]

+1 for the standard trem. I have my silo special floating - angled (by way of the screw claws at the springs) and it works great. No tuning issues at all.

i bought an ESP a while back coz it was cheap and had a Floyd Rose, just to have some fun. Although it was cool, i didn't use it as heavily as the FR system is designed for, and really haven't used it in over 6 months because the FR is just an absolute pain for re-stringing and tuning.

Having the silo set to floating, i can do nice fluid trem movements and pretty decent dive bombs, and it returns to pitch no problems.

 

[phatduckk]

maybe I shouldn't of told the forum I am considering a JS, I might get banned...

na.

 

[marantz1300]

locking nut

Honestly, the problem for you is not the trem. It can be set to floating, and will behave very nicely, obeying your every command.

No. The main concern for you is actually the lack of a locking nut on the Silo. Mainly because, without the locking nut, the strings shift in the nut (which doesn't cost you tuning problems).

I still say, get a Silo. OR have you considered a Morse with FR?

Mine has a locking nut. All schaller hardwhare,made in west germany. pre berlin wall i suppose. As far as I know it's standard. Its not routed. Maybe one of the 6 bolt guys will know.

 

[whitestrat]

yeah, but yours is OLD... The new ones don't come with those no more...

 

[RocketRalf]

Why not buy a used JP with the older pickup? Or some new old stock one. BassCentral.com still has a JP new in matching Blue Pearl with Piezo and the old pickup. I'm sure there are more out there, maybe with better prices.

Also, I've read somewhere that the Pet trem and the vintage trem (Silos, Luke, ASS, AL) are basically the same functionally, they just have different shapes (the JP has the saddles covered, a different trem bar, etc).