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That has been like that for a long, long time.
Basically the difference between a Silo and a Silo Special are that the Silo is 24 frets and the Special is 22 fret. The Silo is now a pup config of HSH and the Special is either SSS and SSH only.
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ShaneV
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The silo and the special are also slightly different shapes, and feel somewhat different accordingly.
Silo SSS = No silent circuit.
Silo Spec SSS = Silent circuit = Good!!!
Btw, the silo SSS did not actually "discontinued". You can still get a SSS routed silo pickguard to configure a SSS setup. But do you like your single coil neck pup to be far away from the nut? and also, the absence of the silent circuit?
Silo Spec SSS = Silent circuit = Good!!!
Btw, the silo SSS did not actually "discontinued". You can still get a SSS routed silo pickguard to configure a SSS setup. But do you like your single coil neck pup to be far away from the nut? and also, the absence of the silent circuit?
DaPatrooch
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The thing I don't understand about the whole neck pickup single coil thing not sounding very good with a 24 fret neck is the scale length is the same as the 22 fret neck, so could someone explain this to me?
ShaneV
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It isn't about the scale length, it's about teh actual location of the pickup. On a 22 fret neck, the pickup goes directly under where the 24th fret would be. Obviously, it can't be there on a 24 fret neck, so it gets moved closer to the bridge, which changes the sound.
whitestrat
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It's not scale length. It's a natural harmonic position. If you look at it in cross section, and pluck an open string, you'll find that the largest amplitude is generally at 2 positions, which is the 24th fret and 6th fret (I think). Placing a pickup there would give the most "open" tone, which also tends to be the loudest position. Shifting the pickup away from that position would mean picking up the vibrations at a different amplitude, which is smaller than the instrument's natural hamonic point. Akin to getting position 4 (neck + middle) on a SSS 22 fret config.
Likewise, if you use the neck pup on a 22 fret SSS guitar, and you play the 5th fret harmonic on any string, you'll hear nothing, mainly because that string length (shortened by your finger) would generate 0 amplitude at the neck pup, which is why you can only hear that on either the middle or the bridge pup.
DaPatrooch
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Thanks guys, that helps, but isn't scale length the length of the nut to the last fret? If the scale length is the same on a 22 fret and 24 fret guitar, wouldn't it not make a difference? I get where you're going though. Sorry I'm a total noob about this stuff haha. Oh and sorry if I kinda hijacked your thread.
whitestrat
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No, scale length refers to the playable length of string. Meaning, from nut, to bridge. an LP is a 24.75" scale length. The EBMM guitars are 25.5" lengths. The baritones are 27" to 29". Bass guitars, I think are 30+"???
the24thfret
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Are the neck shapes different at all?
whitestrat
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the24thfret
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Between what and what?
Sorry, Silo and Silo Spec.
whitestrat
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The shapes are the same... But I think (and it could just be me) that the Silo is a bit thinner... Then again, because the neck for the Silo spec is shorter, they probably used the same template to carve this neck, and therefore, the 5th fret on the Spec neck could be the same thickness as the 7th fret on the Silo? Not sure...
banjoplayer
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Silo SSS = No silent circuit.
Silo Spec SSS = Silent circuit = Good!!!
Btw, the silo SSS did not actually "discontinued". You can still get a SSS routed silo pickguard to configure a SSS setup. But do you like your single coil neck pup to be far away from the nut? and also, the absence of the silent circuit?
Thanks, good answer. It´s not really a matter what I like. It´s an occasion to pick a SSS-Silo rather cheap on ebay. So I don´t have the choice as if I would order one. And SSS-Silos or Silo-Specs are rather seldom on german ebay.
