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All AL wants to do is chikin pik and you guys want him to go all Slayer on us....lol
 

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well ive read almost all this thread. good god. it was on its third post at 12 30 gmt today when i looked at the forum. lol.
i understand both sides of the story . and agree about the different materials hardware needed to be an out and out metal(ish) guitar. but i think a few extra options for the jp models i.e a hardtail option would get it into that bracket . but i think theres a lot you can do with the standard guitar as is. i do like some kinds of metal .not the real heavy thrash stuff that has no real melody but i like a lot of the sub genres. the reason i bought the my jp6 was for the heavy stuff i like to mess around with and because of the features of the guitar it kind of fits itself to the instrumental stuff i like to play most of the time. the other reason i bought the guitar was this guy. probably my favourtie british player apart from guthrie. and hes relatively unknown . i know his name has been mentioned on here in the past as ive searched :) . hes a metal guitarist/instrumental ist. plays with a band called sacred mother tongue who are most definatley metal . and there very good. andy plays mainly ebmm jp models. and he put some emgs in one of his. and it sounds fantastic. heres a video of it for a trailer for a dimebag dvd. (which i have)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZR8apUZQMc"]YouTube- Quick Licks Dimebag Darrell - www.licklibrary.com[/ame]

this will give u an example of what u can do with some emgs. but i do agree about the hardtail for rythem stuff. andy uses esp guitars a lot now , i think hes endorsed by them. but he has used his jp's for many years for metal and hes one of the best metal players in the world. he would make some of these metal superstars guitarists of the moment wet themselves.

anyway lets make it a 10 pager lol.
 

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well ive read almost all this thread. good god. it was on its third post at 12 30 gmt today when i looked at the forum. lol.
i understand both sides of the story . and agree about the different materials hardware needed to be an out and out metal(ish) guitar. but i think a few extra options for the jp models i.e a hardtail option would get it into that bracket . but i think theres a lot you can do with the standard guitar as is. i do like some kinds of metal .not the real heavy thrash stuff that has no real melody but i like a lot of the sub genres. the reason i bought the my jp6 was for the heavy stuff i like to mess around with and because of the features of the guitar it kind of fits itself to the instrumental stuff i like to play most of the time. the other reason i bought the guitar was this guy. probably my favourtie british player apart from guthrie. and hes relatively unknown . i know his name has been mentioned on here in the past as ive searched :) . hes a metal guitarist/instrumental ist. plays with a band called sacred mother tongue who are most definatley metal . and there very good. andy plays mainly ebmm jp models. and he put some emgs in one of his. and it sounds fantastic. heres a video of it for a trailer for a dimebag dvd. (which i have)
YouTube- Quick Licks Dimebag Darrell - www.licklibrary.com

this will give u an example of what u can do with some emgs. but i do agree about the hardtail for rythem stuff. andy uses esp guitars a lot now , i think hes endorsed by them. but he has used his jp's for many years for metal and hes one of the best metal players in the world. he would make some of these metal superstars guitarists of the moment wet themselves.

anyway lets make it a 10 pager lol.


Dude, Andy is a member here.
 

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I have a feeling the BP is laughing at this thread (I am too). Is there something specific that constitutes a "metal" guitar? PRS for example to me doesnt seem to be a Metal guitar but quite a bit of metal guys play them. And whats the big deal with swaping pups anyway? Make it your OWN metal guitar....Dont even respond to my comment...this is pointless. I'm gonna go play some Metal on my Silo Special with Piezo :D muahahaha.

LOL Well said, I have been laughing at this all day as i was reading it during class, BP must be ROTFLHAO.

I read the beginning of this early his moning when Deano started it, went downhill quickly and exploded as well.

You know what is Metal??? Like some others have said not sure any longer and honestly any guitar can do it, some better than others.

to me no such thing as a Metal guitar or Rock guitar or Country guitar.

they are all a musical instrument to play what the player wants its all in the mind, soul fingers and style of the particular player, well thats all beagle out.

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Dante you are on my "NO" list.
 

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I think we need that exampleof what a metal guitar is. Things have been said about EB ofering 6 models not counting its cousins. Well Fender makes a million cousin for the strat and Tele. Gibson has what 4 models not counting hollow bodies. Shur and anderson make like 4 Ibanez makes maybe three, Jackson also makes just a few. PRS is changing their whole line which currently is jus cousin of 4 or 5 models Truth is it is all about the cousins not new models. With said when I teen metal meant thin necks, huge frets, Floyds that raised and lowered pitch, hot pups and 24 frets and they were made of poplar, alder and or basswood. As I got older I saw the other side. Fat necks, huge frets, no floyd, hot pups, 22 fret usually often mohogny or mohogny w/ maple tops. I grew to like the later which is why I don't own a JP. I migh buy one onday but the thin neck is not my thing right now. Give me a fat neck with big frets (and some width) please! no floyde and 22 frets. Metal or not if they did that I would buy it. Hot pups can always be added later.

With that said if we can't define what a metal guitar is how can we ask smeone to make us one.
 

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LOL Well said, I have been laughing at this all day as i was reading it during class, BP must be ROTFLHAO.

I read the beginning of this early his moning when Deano started it, went downhill quickly and exploded as well.

You know what is Metal??? Like some others have said not sure any longer and honestly any guitar can do it, some better than others.

to me no such thing as a Metal guitar or Rock guitar or Country guitar.

they are all a musical instrument to play what the player wants its all in the mind, soul fingers and style of the particular player, well thats all beagle out.

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Dante you are on my "NO" list.

i dare you to show up to a country gig without a tele.
 

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Wow.. sure is alot of people putting their own opinions out there as to what 'is' or 'isn't metal'.

I don't see why an AL, JP, Silo or Axis can't be used for metal... do you just have to keep your image 'brutal'? Being 'designed' for metal doesn't really mean a whole lot... Differences between bolt, set, and thru necks are nominal are far as overall tone is concerned, ESPECIALLY if you want to go and stick some EMG's in the guitar. They would likely sound the same strung up on a 2x4.


And last I check, a fireworks shooting spiky Black guitar with upside down cross inlays doesn't "sound" metal sitting on a stand; you have to play it.
 

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Really...I would show up with an AL at a country gig and nothing would be said if I play good. What is your point other than a "metal guitar" is not made by EBMM? Seriously, if you can play... No matter the genre... People could give two monkey craps. If you can't simply play metal with ANY brand I have a simple solution. Go friggin' practice! My only gripe is now the sense of entitlement to start asking EBMM to make a metal guitar because you can't play it on an EBMM guitar. Really?
 

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Really...I would show up with an AL at a country gig and nothing would be said if I play good. What is your point other than a "metal guitar" is not made by EBMM? Seriously, if you can play... No matter the genre... People could give two monkey craps. If you can't simply play metal with ANY brand I have a simple solution. Go friggin' practice! My only gripe is now the sense of entitlement to start asking EBMM to make a metal guitar because you can't play it on an EBMM guitar. Really?

This=astute!
 

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Personally, I think we ought to just relax.

+1

I need a tequila shooter, sit in my backyard and mumble to myself "how can a JP7 not be metal enough?"

By the way kudos to brokenvail for asking an excellent question: "If we can't define what a metal guitar is how can we ask someone to make us one?"
 

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I show up to country gigs all the time with my army of AL's!!!!! Ive even used strats too, and occasionally a PRS. Check out the country scene at the moment, humbuckers galore.

Pretty silly comment mate!

and 4x12 stacks too!

From the comments in this thread, the main point of many posters appears to be that is has to LOOK like a metal guitar or LOOK like a country guitar, etc...

If you can't rip off some detuned minor-scale-angst on any of the HB EBMMs :eek:
 

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It's obvious nobody can agree on what a "metal" guitar is. There's no way to define it. Name your favorite metal bands and I guarantee you'll find players who use different guitars. Jim Root from Slipknot plays a Tele...supposedly a "country" guitar according to some. That couldn't be "metal" could it? I bet the boys in Slipknot would beg to differ...and their tone sure does prove it's pretty darn metal.
 

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I show up to country gigs all the time with my army of AL's!!!!! Ive even used strats too, and occasionally a PRS. Check out the country scene at the moment, humbuckers galore.

Pretty silly comment mate!

+1 In fact i take my Al's and a Luke or an ASS to my Country gigs all the time and i do Dwight Yoakam Covers in this band!:D
 

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Is it or is it not ok for me to show up to a METAL gig with a Pink DaisyRock guitar??? Im so confused right now!!!
 
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