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Finally got to watch the gc videos. I'm stopped completely at #4 at 7:20. Craig Young is talking about sharing patches.

Patches! On a friggin' guitar!!

To paraphrase another Craig (Anderton), what we may be witnessing is another step in the evolution from the electric guitar to the electronic guitar.

My mind is boggled.
 

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I cant believe I posted on just about every new post and completely missed the most important one. I knew Sterling would come through for the faithful and give us the vids before NAMM, I am on my third go round of viewing and have to say I am blown away and was kind of off base on somethings.

The biggest point for me is that it does not seem that complicated to operate which was my biggest fear, in fact it really does not seem that difficult at all. Watching Sterling and Albert jamming said it all, as it was freaking me out watching him hold a Reflex with his signature AL single coil tone coming out=genius!

Way too much to digest and go over about the vids for now.
 

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I haved lived my entire Music Man career with a negative reception. I expect it.

Please understand that the gear heads that are complaining think that we are creating sound. We arent creating any tones. We are unlocking and setting free sonic combinations that have been around for 50 years....locked in the guitar. They think we are touching the signal (even though it is stressed many times in the videos that it doesnt touch the signal) THese people are happy not knowing what their guitar is capable of...they want the switch to tell them how to sound..thats fine we still make them that way too.

The Gamchanger adds $500 usa retail to the reflex probably $350 street
 
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Life's gotta be 10 fold more rewarding when you get a chance to open the mind of naysayers.

Honestly now that I think about why hasnt anyone else tried to innovate this?
 

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holly cow, after watching the first video now (is morning here, I'm at the office :p) I know is not English I wasn't catching is the idea maybe hard to understand, especially if you're not an engineer :D
I am proud to have a Music Man more than before and if it sounds "that analog" and they will put it on a JP I will for sure buy one , although I swore not to cause is to f..ing expensive for me.

As for those detractors BP mentioned, for sure their will and capacity to process information is not enabling them to accept that this was maybe the the way to go, and the technology was not yet figured out to do this :)
congrats for those smart engineers !

Paul
 

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I haved lived my entire Music Man career with a negative reception. I expect it.

Please understand that the gear heads that are complaining think that we are creating sound. We arent creating any tones. We are unlocking and setting free sonic combinations that have been around for 50 years....locked in the guitar. They think we are touching the signal (even though it is stressed many times in the videos that it doesnt touch the signal) THese people are happy not knowing what their guitar is capable of...they want the switch to tell them how to sound..thats fine we still make them that way too.

The Gamchanger adds $500 usa retail to the reflex probably $350 street

Thank you for:

1.) continuing to strive to improve the instrument. We talk about how the electric guitar has "been the same for 50 years," which is true... but we forget that 50 years is really a relatively SHORT time in terms of the existence of a musical instrument... Bowed instruments, brass, woodwinds, etc. have existed for many hundreds (in many cases thousands) of years... 50 years is a moment. We are still very much in the growing/learning stage of what the electric guitar is and what it can do.

People like you are helping ensure the instrument continues to rise to its potential.

2.) letting us know how much it costs. :)
 
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If these self-entitled "gear heads" paid attention to the details like a "real" gear head does, they would understand what the Game Changer does.

For a working musician, especially one who may transgress genres, the Game Changer is a perfect solution. Take one guitar instead of 5.
 

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New here, but came by to check out the gamechanger buzz. I must say I am impressed. I just finished wiring a guitar up with series/split/parallel and a 3 way (in the process of acquiring what I need to add a phase switch). The fact of the matter is, my serious ultra versatile wiring just looks like a toy beside this thing. It is fantastic, great work.

My question however is this. Will this be available aftermarket, for any guitar?

I can understand wanting to keep it only on proprietary instruments, just to garner some extra sales initially but I think that would taper off. A lot of folks already have that guitar that is feeling 'just right' in their hand, and may not be willing to swap it out for a new toy. I am probably in that boat, but I suppose if not you cannot have your cake and eat it to. I will somehow live (it may not be quality life though :D).
 

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Welcome to the forum! I've also been one to constantly re-wire. Series/split/parallel, out of phase, different capacitors in parallel, inductors, etc. The idea of having more control at my fingertips is a welcome idea.

In terms of availability, I suspect it's too soon to say. They've only just introduced the product and will have their hands full for a while.

Historically EBMM doesn't sell any proprietary parts that are in their instruments, however you really never know what's going to happen.
 

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The thing about these guys, is they are the same guys that slam Midi, without knowing what it does in the guitar world. The same guys that slam PCB boards in tube amps. The fact is, is that they don't know what they are talking about. On other forums, I hear guys that moan and groan about midi switching. All it does is switch things. With the guitar, it does not get in the signal path. I use it to switch out effects in loops on my board. Sort of what this does, but in a remote way. This is pure genius, and for some to bash an important innovation like this is just childish, immature, and stupid in my opinion. The gamechanger has to be the biggest breakthrough for the gigging guitarist EVER, since the electric guitar was invented. PERIOD. Kudos BP and the rest of the gang.
 

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Welcome to the forum! I've also been one to constantly re-wire. Series/split/parallel, out of phase, different capacitors in parallel, inductors, etc. The idea of having more control at my fingertips is a welcome idea.

In terms of availability, I suspect it's too soon to say. They've only just introduced the product and will have their hands full for a while.

Historically EBMM doesn't sell any proprietary parts that are in their instruments, however you really never know what's going to happen.


Thanks for the welcome, I can see myself picking up a 5 banger with one of these badboys, but in all honesty I doubt I would pick up one of the guitars. It has nothing to do with the guitars not being fantastic so much as my current guitars being decked out killing machines. I don't really need another guitar, but could use a 2nd bass (seeing as I am a bass player, kind of odd I own less basses I suppose).

I realize that EB/MM doesn't typically do that sort of thing, but in a year or 2 when things have settled down maybe there is a chance. A man can dream.
 

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BP

I've been playing guitar for nearly 40 years and I can honestly say this is the biggest wow I've had since I saw my first strat (no offence to EBMM).

It's a refreshing change to witness the development of something in music which is so extraordinary, it truly lives up to its name.

When I saw the first video (late as usual), I couldn't go to bed until I'd watched the lot.

It staggers me how some people don't get, don't want change, don't want to try new things, and yet that's fine. But please, you know who you are, stop knocking those of us who are open to new experiences, new sounds.

The game changer made me think about guitar in a completely different way. Boy, I can now have all those sounds from guitar brands that I don't like to play, whilst at the same timeplay an instrument I truly love. Bottom line here, how brilliant is that!!

There is one thought I'd had since watching the videos and I'm sure your team have thought about this. I've likened the Gamechanger to a multi-effects unit in that with a quick press you can dial in a new sound. But, when storing the sound, you have to remember where it's stored. Would there be merit in introducing a small display with letter and number so that the player knows which "patch" they put into each "bank?"

It's just a suggestion.

Here's wishing you a truly successful and memorable NAMM BP and the EBMM team - you thoroughly deserve it.
 

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BP

I've been playing guitar for nearly 40 years and I can honestly say this is the biggest wow I've had since I saw my first strat (no offence to EBMM).

It's a refreshing change to witness the development of something in music which is so extraordinary, it truly lives up to its name.

When I saw the first video (late as usual), I couldn't go to bed until I'd watched the lot.

It staggers me how some people don't get, don't want change, don't want to try new things, and yet that's fine. But please, you know who you are, stop knocking those of us who are open to new experiences, new sounds.

The game changer made me think about guitar in a completely different way. Boy, I can now have all those sounds from guitar brands that I don't like to play, whilst at the same timeplay an instrument I truly love. Bottom line here, how brilliant is that!!

There is one thought I'd had since watching the videos and I'm sure your team have thought about this. I've likened the Gamechanger to a multi-effects unit in that with a quick press you can dial in a new sound. But, when storing the sound, you have to remember where it's stored. Would there be merit in introducing a small display with letter and number so that the player knows which "patch" they put into each "bank?"

It's just a suggestion.

Here's wishing you a truly successful and memorable NAMM BP and the EBMM team - you thoroughly deserve it.

You're going to have to watch that attitude there, that's going to get you labelled as a fanboy all over the internet.

Imagine the shame!
 
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