Question Axis Floyds
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GetTheFunkOut
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Without the body cavity like most floating Floyd equipped guitars, I imagine you would have to set it up like strat style floating bridge would be. This wouldn't do any favours for comfortable action and even then, I doubt the amount you could bend upwards would be of much use anyway.
ZeroFivefour
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You know, I have been tempted to buy a second hand axis and have a luthier route it out for just this purpose. I would love to have an axis with a recessed cavity for the beautiful floyd shimmer. Funds and my apprehension to potentially destroying a beautiful guitar are the inhibiting factors atm.
Cheers,
Tom
Cheers,
Tom
i wouldn't want to route the wood or anything. just 1/8th of an inch or so for a little david gilmour style trem vibrato...
would you have to route wood where the block hits the body, in the cavity there by the springs? or could you get a different block and/or different sized floyd , or need to? thanks brothas!
would you have to route wood where the block hits the body, in the cavity there by the springs? or could you get a different block and/or different sized floyd , or need to? thanks brothas!
ZeroFivefour
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Capn,
I would bet you could raise the action and set the floyd up to have a bit of a reverse dive. But the action would not be any where near what I would find useful. Maybe the resident axis experts can chime in here, I have an axis, but have never set it up to float.
I believe that you would have to adjust the two set screws on your guitar to bring the bridge UP. DO NOT TRY to bring it DOWN, you will destroy the finish on your guitar where it meets the screw if you go too low. (I did this many years ago ignorantly trying to adjust my action lower, although I have since repaired it, I still cringe at my stupidity). YMMV
Cheers,
Tom
I would bet you could raise the action and set the floyd up to have a bit of a reverse dive. But the action would not be any where near what I would find useful. Maybe the resident axis experts can chime in here, I have an axis, but have never set it up to float.
I believe that you would have to adjust the two set screws on your guitar to bring the bridge UP. DO NOT TRY to bring it DOWN, you will destroy the finish on your guitar where it meets the screw if you go too low. (I did this many years ago ignorantly trying to adjust my action lower, although I have since repaired it, I still cringe at my stupidity). YMMV
Cheers,
Tom
Tollywood
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I suppose you could shim the neck pocket and raise the Floyd posts to make it float.
Too bad they don't have a cavity, all the other solutions about messing with the bridge aren't the same.
Been thinking myself to get another axis and have it modded. I HAVE seen used Axes (is that right?-lol) with a routed cavity.
Been thinking myself to get another axis and have it modded. I HAVE seen used Axes (is that right?-lol) with a routed cavity.
joe web
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that's the way to go. did this on one of my Y2Ds in the past and it worked perfectly.
aleclee
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I did this on mine.
DrKev
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The conventional wisdom on Floyds is that they must be set with the baseplate parallel to the top of the guitar (perpendiclar to the posts, I presume). My question is "why?".
As we all know from the Music Man vintage trem (which despite the name is also a modern two-point system), we can simply loosen the trem cavity springs so that we have 1/8" (3mm) gap at the back of the bridge when the guitar is in tune. That's how the Luke is setup in the factory and how most of us set our non-Floyd MM trems to float. (See photo in my profile). That's Fender spec for floating on their two-point trems too. So why not with a Floyd?
The only question about doing this with a Floyd-style system is whether or not this could damage the knife edges. Personally, I'd happily try it out if it was my own guitar, but don't say I didn't warn you! Anyone else have any info here?
As we all know from the Music Man vintage trem (which despite the name is also a modern two-point system), we can simply loosen the trem cavity springs so that we have 1/8" (3mm) gap at the back of the bridge when the guitar is in tune. That's how the Luke is setup in the factory and how most of us set our non-Floyd MM trems to float. (See photo in my profile). That's Fender spec for floating on their two-point trems too. So why not with a Floyd?
The only question about doing this with a Floyd-style system is whether or not this could damage the knife edges. Personally, I'd happily try it out if it was my own guitar, but don't say I didn't warn you! Anyone else have any info here?
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aleclee
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Based on a lot of experience with PRS trems, I'd say that it's to provide a consistent frame of reference, particularly when adjusting action and intonation. If the base is flat, changes to intonation and action are relatively independent where geometry indicates that with a non-level base, adjusting one would also affect the other.
It won't break anything but it makes setups a bit more challenging, particularly if you're picky about such things.
DrKev
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A very good and obvious point. That'll tell you when I last did any setup work on a non-floating Floyd-equipped guitar, eh?! 
Smellybum
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it's been said about the neck shim -or riase the action and use the bridge at an angle both work..... that's said a super sport with locking tuners and trem does the job nicely too. :-D
