Compensated Nut...

[azazael]

Is the musicman nut anything like the earvana?

Can they be purchased?

How do they work further up the neck?

 

[the24thfret]

Theyre not available for purchase... only on new instruments.

edit: I'll add that I think the compensated nut sounds fantastic all over the neck.

 

[azazael]

Well that sucks...

 

[ScoobySteve]

What happens when the nut wears, can we send it back to BP and Co for a replacement?

 

[Slingy]

I think it is very close to the Earvana one. If you look at the Earvana chart down the page, the most improvement is from the 1st positions where chords and notes will normally be sharp, causing you to tune under to make up for it.

Earvana - Compensated Tuning Systems for Guitars

 

[Colin]

What happens when the nut wears, can we send it back to BP and Co for a replacement?

You can get a replacement if your guitar had one on originally. The compensated nut is not retrofitable on early models. The earvana is a copy of the MM comp nut do a search here and you'll see the story.

 

[kimonostereo]

I believe BP and company won partial summary judgement back in July 2009. Will be interesting to see what happens next.

 

[azazael]

What makes it not compatible with the older models?

 

[Colin]

What makes it not compatible with the older models?

distance from the bridge

 

[Smellybum]

Well that sucks...

you want a retro fir BFR logo too?

 

[azazael]

Couldnt give a monkeys about BFR mate and I resent that implication.


I'm just getting pissed off with sacrifices of playing guitar.

Having to tune on the fly to adjust certain strings to compensate for open chords or barre chords etc etc... it just puts me right off playing the damn things.

 

[Smellybum]

Couldnt give a monkeys about BFR mate and I resent that implication.


I'm just getting pissed off with sacrifices of playing guitar.

Having to tune on the fly to adjust certain strings to compensate for open chords or barre chords etc etc... it just puts me right off playing the damn things.

Calm down Calm down, it's only a post....

your earlier comment of it sucking that they don't sell comp nuts as a retro fit seemed a bit harsh, remember opinions are like but holes! -everybody has one...

peace.

 

[Ricman]

It's all to do with equally tempered scale. JS Bach invented it - before then there were slightly different notes for every scale or mode - he brought them all together in one scale, but it is essentially a compromise.
G sharp is actually a different note to A flat, but on a guitar it's the same. A fretless instrument is okay, but when you have frets, you are always taking a middle line and having to live with that compromise. It's the same on piano.
Stuff I've seen on the internet says that some guitarists in the studio tune their guitars just for the particular phrase....
The comp nut I think is great...but it's always fighting against Johan Sebastian.

 

[Colin]

I notice the tuning thing when recording, hardly ever notice when playing live

 

[Abraxas]

I notice the tuning thing when recording, hardly ever notice when playing live

I agree on that. Also, like the BF system, the difference is quite evident if you mix acoustic instuments and/or keyboards also. Always on recording.

 

[balance]

Here is the procedure for tuning I use from the American Luthiers Guild. It helps across the board with all of my guitars. Once you get the procedure down, it is a really fast and accurate method.

Let me say also that with the compensated nut on my 25th, this method is as close to perfect as I have heard.

Stagepass.com - How To Tune The Guitar to perfection

 

[Spudmurphy]

I have an earvana compensated nut fitted to my Mahogany bodied tele (well it's my son's guitar now). It's the same kind of principle but is more "agriculteral looking". Mine has a base plate with a separate top plate incorporating the comp saddles. They are a good company to deal with and offer good customer support.

 

[HCB]

It's all to do with equally tempered scale. JS Bach invented it - before then there were slightly different notes for every scale or mode - he brought them all together in one scale, but it is essentially a compromise.
G sharp is actually a different note to A flat, but on a guitar it's the same. A fretless instrument is okay, but when you have frets, you are always taking a middle line and having to live with that compromise. It's the same on piano.
Stuff I've seen on the internet says that some guitarists in the studio tune their guitars just for the particular phrase....
The comp nut I think is great...but it's always fighting against Johan Sebastian.

You mean like this?

 

[Ricman]

The answer!!

 

[agt]

The thought of that guitar in the photo is giving me a headache!