don't look here. no really, don't look... hehehee...

[midopa]

word

On the plus side, the grain on thebody looks nice.

 

[tkarter]

Mix male and female knobs that's going to happen.

tk

 

[syciprider]

Well this ends all those SR vs J bass polls.

 

[Oldtoe]

Just when you think the world has reached dips**t saturation, something like this crops up and raises the moron bar.


"Shore, Bubba! That there's a guh-RATE ah-dear! guh-hyeh! 'Joo put mo-uhr Mad Dog in mah Dr. Pepper lahk ah aysked ya tyoo?"

 

[Bartmanpdx]

Just when you think the world has reached dips**t saturation, something like this crops up and raises the moron bar.


"Shore, Bubba! That there's a guh-RATE ah-dear! guh-hyeh! 'Joo put mo-uhr Mad Dog in mah Dr. Pepper lahk ah aysked ya tyoo?"

Amen to that.

That's just so wrong. It's hard to fathom what the individual who wrought this monstrosity was thinking at the time.

I've done some hard living back in the day, and I still don't think I've ever gotten anywhere near drunk enough to do something like THAT. It takes a special breed of stupidity.

 

[Dr Stankface]

"Shore, Bubba! That there's a guh-RATE ah-dear! guh-hyeh! 'Joo put mo-uhr Mad Dog in mah Dr. Pepper lahk ah aysked ya tyoo?"

I understood that easily.

 

[82Daion]

Don't mess with the gospel truth...we'll bite your knees off.

 

[Dr Stankface]

So says the Yammy boy.

 

[DRF]

Hi folks, Im the owner of that said bass.
A quick intro on me: I am a fulltime working bass player and have been since 1983. I acquired that bass originally about '95 at Collector's Choice (RIP), a fairly popular vintage guitar dealer that I worked at part-time briefly in the 90s. Its a '77. It came in as a refin and not in the best condition. I got it fairly inexpensive. I have always been a full-time variety player so I am not one of those 'set-it-and-forget-it' kind of guys - I go through a WIDE pallette of tones from song to song throughout any given gig. Ive always loved the StingRay sound but always thought that they were somewhat limited about tonal flexibility. What I did to it worked great -- the only tone that I could not get out of it was the "fake fretless" sound, usually done by soloing a J-Pickup mounted at the bridge and rolling back the treble control. This was why I got rid of it in the first place (sold it to a drummer friend of mine years ago - I just got it back today after trading him for an Ibanez 5-String that I had acquired not too long ago). Ive been trying to get it back for awhile.

Personally, calling me the names that I have read here doesn't mean squat to me: I could care less what a bass looks like, as long as it plays good and sounds great and - this is the catch - does what I want it to do. This bass meets that criteria: sounds great and (with the exception of 'fake fretless' mentioned above) is extremely flexible. Ernie Ball has recently started making multi-pickup StingRays ( so yes, Oldtoe, obviously Ernie Ball thought it was a "ga-RATE Ah-Dear" also) that are now flexible in tonal options like this one ( and look better ), but I didn't have those kinds of options available to me on a StingRay over 10 years ago. Perhaps if StingRays were available with these options back then, I wouldn't have done this.......... So lets just say I was "a little ahead of my time". If Ernie Ball feels strongly enough to get this bass out of circulation, I'd be happy to swap them for a brand new double-HH or HH/Single coil Stingray

Sorry if it hurts your eyes: it pleases me and "me" is the only person I need to make happy

 

[mammoth]

if we all liked the same sh@t the world would be a dull place, one mans trouser-rouser is another mans man-pon...

or words to that effect....

DRF.. don't be offended mate (although im sure you're not)

we're a freindly gang on here really!

PS. You NEEEEEED a bongo

 

[mike not fat]

Yes, don't feel offended. People are making fun of how this SR looks, or about the idea of adding J pick-ups to a MM (you know, that old MM vs F***er thing). But most of them do not want to offend you !
I'must confess that it looks ugly to me, compared to a SR' ; but that's just my tastes, and I would not be able to do such mods. If it feet's your needs, then it's ok.

Now, you can considere one of the nice looking dual p-u basses EBMM is offering (selling would be the right word).

Again, no offense meant !

MNF

 

[mynan]

No offense, but it's offensive....

I'm pretty new as far as SR fans go, but even I can see why a Pre EB SR that's been cared for would go for a heck of a lot more than an Ibanez.

It's a shame for the same reason any real car guy hates it when he sees a rare classic tubbed out to shave a couple seconds on a drag strip.

 

[Dr Stankface]

No offense, my brotha. I was just sayin' it looks like @$$. If it sounds good and does what you want it to, then rock on m'friend!

 

[bovinehost]

I could care less what a bass looks like, as long as it plays good and sounds great and - this is the catch - does what I want it to do. This bass meets that criteria: sounds great and (with the exception of 'fake fretless' mentioned above) is extremely flexible.

There you go. Words to live by. I'm sure a few of the vintage freaks would poke their eyes out with table utensils, but it IS your bass and I always say that if you need a gear shift or something, install that bad boy.

So don't let the initial reaction put you off. We do have a pretty interesting and fairly humorous group here and you and that flux capacitor are more than welcome.

Jack

 

[DRF]

I'm pretty new as far as SR fans go, but even I can see why a Pre EB SR that's been cared for would go for a heck of a lot more than an Ibanez.

Like I said, I don't play bass for their "value": I am a fulltime working bassplayer and, for me, basses are tools and nothing more/nothing less. I have a highly modded '71 Fender Precision in my collection as well which has little collector value but it has value to me and thats all I care about. ....and I could care less what Collector's think because I put most guitar/dealer/collector's/non-players-but-businessmen ( NOT player/collectors- there is a difference) at the bottom of my pesonal musical food-chain and I could give a rat's ass what those guys think...all I care about is how they sound, how they play, how they respond to me, and can they achieve the job I need them to do.

Also, mentioned in my above post, this bass originally came in to Collector's Choice not in the best condition -- as a matter of fact, there was reason to believe that it had suffered some flood damage at the time.........

...and, no, Im not offended: those who know me from the other forums know that offending me is almost next to impossible.

If it helps, I have an '04 StingRay in my arsenal of basses as well in prestine condition and - fear not - I'm not taking a dremel to it

..and, Yes, I agree that it does look like a@@

 

[adouglas]

Hey, DRF...you've got a great attitude about this. Bravo.

Got a question for you...when I read sypicrider's post that said "Well this ends all those SR vs J bass polls," it struck me that he might have been on to something.

Was part of your reason for adding those J-bass pickups to your Stingray a desire to get a more J-like sound out of it?

Just wonderin' what the thinking was behind it.

PS: I've been known to fiddle with and tweak many of my toys in the past, sometimes with good results, often with the reverse. My Bongo is one of the first things I've ever owned that strikes me as perfect right out of the box. But that's just me.

 

[DRF]

Hey, DRF...you've got a great attitude about this. Bravo.

Got a question for you...when I read sypicrider's post that said "Well this ends all those SR vs J bass polls," it struck me that he might have been on to something.

Was part of your reason for adding those J-bass pickups to your Stingray a desire to get a more J-like sound out of it?

Just wonderin' what the thinking was behind it.

PS: I've been known to fiddle with and tweak many of my toys in the past, sometimes with good results, often with the reverse. My Bongo is one of the first things I've ever owned that strikes me as perfect right out of the box. But that's just me.

The original idea for this bass was to put the J-Pickups on each side of the MM: one at the bridge and one in a mid position. The "fake fretless" sound ( a brief explanation: the Jaco/Jeff Berlin sound by soloing a J-Pickup at the bridge and rolling down the tone (passive) or treble (active). Add a little chorus to it, slide into the notes and 'voila'! Does it sound like a fretless? By itself "No" - Within the context of a band: "a reasonable facscimile" - Very useful on songs by Sade, Paul Young, etc if I am gigging with only one bass without time to switch to a fretless). the person who did the work for me was a luthier, and friend, from Orlando named Chris Lucaisik (RIP). There was a reason why Chris wasn't able to mount the one J PU at the bridge, but I had already purchased the Js, so we decided to just add them both in a mid-position. Using different PU combos, it gets a multi-tude of sounds - it can be soloed to just its original MM form and, with both J Pickups soloed (because both are mounted in the middle), can sound reasonably like a Precision Bass. The "fake fretless" is a sound I use a LOT and I couldn't get it out of this bass so I sold it to a drummer friend years ago. I have been trying to get it back - this beast plays wonderful and, to me, has the absolute best neck of any SR I have ever played.

I haven't tried any of the multi-pickup newer MMs and I would love to know if the MM bucker can be split to a single-coil mode to achieve "fake fretless" on these newer basses. My '04 StingRay is just a standard model

 

[adouglas]

I haven't tried any of the multi-pickup newer MMs and I would love to know if the MM bucker can be split to a single-coil mode to achieve "fake fretless" on these newer basses. My '04 StingRay is just a standard model

There's a sticky at the top of the forum:

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-basses/8760-new-2pu-bass-switch-functions.html

 

[DRF]

There's a sticky at the top of the forum:

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-basses/8760-new-2pu-bass-switch-functions.html

Thanks!

I just read it --- Nice to know that I had this idea over ten years ago

 

[bassmancb]

THAT looks horrible!!!!!!