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BobKos

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Hi All:

I looked at and bought an earlier Stingray today. The seller indicated to me he bought it new in '84-ish. He says it is all original and has been enjoying pampered care by him all it's life. Mostly sleeping in its case in a closet. The B0217XX serial indicates it was built in 1983 according to the database. Ditto for the neck pocket information.

The bass plays well and all functions are 100%.

I have cosmetic questions. I think the bass has been refinished. The neck is maple. It has a high gloss finish on the front and back. The gloss is on the heel under the neck except for a small stripe where a stick was attached. There are penciled initials on the heel also in one area which are under the gloss. The gloss finish material is also heavy in the area of the truss rod to the point that it is actually coated onto the truss rod. The rod turns fine and there's no evidence of it cracking in that area or anywhere else. Does this sound consistent with this era neck? A photo below shows what I'm talking about.

The body is a translucent red color. I'm not sure what to make of the finish. It appears to have alot of orange peel. At the same time, it shows some checking like an old nitro finish might do. Were the finishes pretty bad back in those days? Also - there's an omission in the finish under the pickup as if a tool was used to hold the body during the staining process. Has anybody ever seen this?

One other thing that is bothering me. The body does not look like it's made of ash. It appears to be alder. I always thought stingray basses were made of ash exclusively. It's not a very pretty piece of wood to have been selected as a trans finish.

In all, I'm happy with the bass. I didn't pay a premium for a collectible stingray. I bought based on playability and the seller was cool about everything. My instincts are telling me that there may be some deception with regards to what I was told regarding the original finish. I specifically asked if it had been refinished and I received an emphatic "NO!". All else about this base lines up with the seller's story including the corduroy G&G tolex case that came with it.

To those who know - please share your advice on what I should make of this finish. I appreciate any insight and information.

Thanks,
Bob
 
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zuma

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Congratulations.

I just made a similar purchase. Check back a couple of pages for a thread labeled "Question - Guitar Center 30 day hold." I'm not an expert but I would say that everything about your bass sounds original.

I just to spoke to MusicManNut at the BP Live event today. He gave me some great info on my bass which I believe will translate to your bass. These basses were made by Charvel Jackson. They were contracted out to them after Musicman, before Ernie Ball. Some of these basses were made of basswood but he believes mine was poplar.

Play the hell out of it!
 

Caca de Kick

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It does not look like a refin to me. Refinishes just about always fill all the various screw holes and rout openings with paint. Your bass is consistant with a factory finish; all the holes were drilled after painting.
Yup, Grover Jackson built them during the last years of MM.
Old poly checked kind of similar like nitro did. And I've seen basses with heavy thick finshes, and I've seen them with thin finshes.

Ash was used on solid and natural coloured ones. Alder was used on mostly sunburst and brown stain finishes, and apparently your red stain too.
 

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I think your finish is original.

The neck holes are original and the shadow (as you depict) shows up in one of the pics I have.

I've seen paint shadows under the pickup cavity although not as pronounced as as the one depicted.

It's not unusual for writting to be sealed under the laquer.

It's the first time I've seen laquer covering the truss bullet (but they used to plyu it rather thick) !!!

It was Wayne Charvel and Grover Jackson who made them from the end of 1979.

IMO, Your body is probably Alder (I could be wrong thougfh) :)

PS if you want pics I can Email them
 
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BobKos

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Thank you all for the helpful replies. It is great that there is information available through this forum from knowledgeable MM players.

Keep on rockin'

Bob
 
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