EBMM ASS vs Peavey Wolfgang

[Tung]

Very familiar with the ASS models, but can anybody here tell me what are the fundamental differences are compare to the Peavey Wolfgangs?

 

[brasco68]

The Guitar "vs" Guitar discussion isn't very popular here....just an FYI. If you're looking for an unbiased opinion....you're probably better off asking this in a forum that is neutral and isn't owned by either company.

 

[hbucker]

I'll assume you are aware of the specs on the Axis. Wolfgang spec differences are as follows:
- 15" radius on the fretboard
- wider neck (don't know the exact width off hand)
- carved top with angled neck.
- angled headstock (which only matters if you don't have a locking nut)
- graphite reinforcement rods in the neck
- pickups are noticably hotter. Over all I like the EVH/Axis pickups better though.

Those are the major differences that come to mind. Just because you like one doesn't mean you'll like the other. They are fairly different animals in many ways.

This is all I'll post about this. As it is, I wouldn't be surprised if this thead gets locked. Take the above for what it's worth.

 

[Tung]

thanks for the replies. I'm simply posting this to find out the difference between the two guitars, since I'm going to be recording in a studio that has both, end of story. In no way am I indulging in promoting a non EBMM guitar on this forum.

 

[Big Poppa]

Let me clarify this ...VS implies a boxing match or a football game The beauty is that there are all kinds of guitars providing the player with great choices.

Propably the best thing is instead of asking the grizzled diehards to give you their biased opinion ask them what they like about the Axis ss

No worries

 

[DaPatrooch]

There are a few EVH fans on here that own many of both models, they could probably offer some good insight.

 

[TNT]

Every guitar "is what it is"! Spec's are facts - so it's easy to compare any two guitars without degrading either one.

Now, "opinions" are a whole different ballgame!! Love EBMM geek-tars.

 

[Pablo]

Seing as both are available for you to try out, I suggest simply taking both for a spin. Both guitars are undoubtedly quality instruments, hence, it really is a question of personal preference. Personally, I prefer the aesthetics, petite body and PUs of the Axis, but the slightly larger and flatter neck of the Wolfgang. As far as versatility, the ASS is simply in a different league entirely to the Wolfgang and when recording, you'll love the tonal options it offers.

Cheers

Eske

 

[threeminutesboy]

maybe you should ask dwells he played one recently

 

[Slingy]

It didn't sound nearly as good as his Luke.

 

[walleye]

dont forget about the fender wolfgang, which i would say is better than the peavey, ive heard some horrid stories about the peavey.

there was a thread about axis compared to fender wolfgang about a month ago, just type something like that in search.

 

[azazael]

dont forget about the fender wolfgang, which i would say is better than the peavey, ive heard some horrid stories about the peavey.

there was a thread about axis compared to fender wolfgang about a month ago, just type something like that in search.

The simple fact of an Axis when compared to ANY wolfgang. I DO mean USA models by Fender or Peavey.

Is that Axis guitars albeit im gonna base what im saying (well a major component of it) on the Axis not the ASS as its what it should be compared to as it is the most similar.

With the Axis you are getting quality brand components and woods and its all there out in the open with nothing to hide.

The Peavey was more expensive than the Axis when I was buying mine yet everything on it was branded either by Peavey or EVH to hide its true source. The Fender is the exact same although less quality than the Peavey in my opinion.

Axis has Schaller tuners, Gotoh Floyd, Dimarzio Pickups, Birdseye neck and fingerboard, highly figured quilted or flamed maple tops...

Peavey... last time i looked at one everything was rebranded. However with information that I have. The trem was built in Korea or somewhere by Ping. Although a good trem its still not what ideally should be on such a hi-end guitar. I actually think everything else on the guitar was sourced from asia or made in house by Peavey. Which I never understood as to why it was so expensive... bigger cut of the pie for a certain individual I expect though.

Now the Fender...
Is very similar, took them two years of "R&D" to cut a piece of wood from the headstock. Everything branded yet again and nearly twice the price of the Axis (in the UK) for nowhere near the quality. Corners cut everywhere on that guitar. The only birdseye you get is a lightly figured fingerboard thats it. The quilt tops look very very weird to me and too consistent with each other which makes me incredibly dubious about that. Yet again its another cheapo rebranded Floyd unit thats on them and nowhere near the quality of a Gotoh.

I take this information from various sources however I also know the Charvels use asian Floyds also that carry the Floyd Rose branding. Its a total con in my book. If they market an "original floyd rose" it better be built by schaller and German. Im not entirely sure but I think Fender might own Ping also.

It also has "EVH low friction" pots which from inspection seem to be just $4 Bourns pots with an EVH logo embossed on back at sold at $30.

One noticeable difference between wolfgangs and axis is the trem area is slightly recessed.

As people have said you are going to get a slightly biased opinion asking on this board but I have given you some valid information and not just "x is better than y.... because i love it"

I have played countless wolfgangs from first year quilts to custom shop models with frankenstripe inlays and also 3 of the new ones. They are ok to be honest but not worth hi-end money. The neck is noticeable different and pickups too.

I was pestered by guys in my local store who thought that with being a very big admittedly EVH fan that I would salivate and probably buy the Fender on site when they got one... I was not all that impressed, they seemed to think it was outstanding... well until i got them to try my tobaccoburst axis.


No comparison.

 

[azazael]

I should also add that with the Super Sport you will get the best trem in the business and the most versatile rock guitar ever concieved.

 

[gtrman66]

maybe you should ask dwells he played one recently

well I don't remember actually seeing his face while he played it...but he did look happy with the luke in his hands.......kinda like this ->

 

[Tung]

As people have said you are going to get a slightly biased opinion asking on this board but I have given you some valid information and not just "x is better than y.... because i love it"

I have played countless wolfgangs from first year quilts to custom shop models with frankenstripe inlays and also 3 of the new ones. They are ok to be honest but not worth hi-end money. The neck is noticeable different and pickups too.

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thanks for the in-depth info. It's very helpful for me, especially the parts and where they actually come from, which is Asia in most of cases.

 

[browndog]

maybe you should ask dwells he played one recently

good one... wrong but good.

 

[hbucker]

I've owned 2 of the PV's and have no horror stories to report... One for 11 years now.

The Axis and Wolf feel very different so playing them would probably sway you one way or the other pretty quickly.

The only thing that I can point to that I think is just plain better and not subject to debate (even though it is...) are the pickups on the Axis. They may be the best stock pickups on any guitar IMO. I love them.

 

[Slav123]

I have owned both models of PV's (Standard and Flame Top Special) and I don't think that you can compare them to the EBMM ASS or even the Axis models. To me, they are completely different guitars - not a true apples to apples comparison. The PV necks, pickups, body shape and hardware are completely different (was already mentioned) and for me the Axis and ASS models are far more superior in materials/construction and playability (100 x more comfortable to play and they sound better).

Slav

 

[Astrofreq]

FACT: the Axis bridge pickup is the best on the planet.

 

[Tung]

The only thing that I can point to that I think is just plain better and not subject to debate (even though it is...) are the pickups on the Axis. They may be the best stock pickups on any guitar IMO. I love them.

The pups on the Axis are amazing, no doubt about that.