EBMM Cases - Fit issues ?

[Tim O'Sullivan]

My mate had one of these with his OLP - nice cases they are too!

Tim Sullivan has the right idea too, the Hiscox is the finest case that I have out of my Les Paul, EB and Tele cases.

If I had to say anything detrimental about EB it would be the case I had with the guitar and maybe BP has a point when he says that maybe we should buy our own. I guess I prefer shaped cases to oblong ones.

I have tried my AL in the Hiscox case and there is play (solved by the placement of a folded cloth) and as Tim says, the trem arm has to be taken off (hey Tim I thought you had hardtails! ).

I am hardtails all the way! But I was thinking of a wider voter block!

 

[Spudmurphy]

S'cool - I then remembered yer partner in grime - The Stoner.
Does he use Hiscox - they're gr8!!

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

S'cool - I then remembered yer partner in grime - The Stoner.
Does he use Hiscox - they're gr8!!

No, he uses the standard MM cases. And he has just bought another Ball (But I didnt tell you that!)

 

[Spudmurphy]

Doesn't exist witho..............

 

[Dizzy]

Also it's a guitar, not an egg...........................

Ok, Ok...... but please accept my use of an egg as an example

To have the guitar move is far better than to have it be locked in super snug case with little movement. Example... You jump off a 3 foot high platform. You bend your knees when you land. Thus allowing movement in your body to absorb the initial force of the impact. Your fine no big deal. You jump off the same platform this time you lock your knees.. Painful. .

Good point Larry, BUT you're actually helping me here ! :

Your example further proves the basics of inertia.
* Drop the case off a 3 foot platform.
* Case hits floor.
* Guitar CONTINUES moving inside case at SAME speed.
* Case MAY actually bounce back towards guitar, increasing speed of impact within case.
* Guitar impacts inside of case, with full pressure applied to point of impact.

i.e. the guitar & case combo has no knees.

The padding within the case supplies the "give", and the best way for it to work is to be applied to the greatest surface area (i.e via snug fit).

 

[Larry]

Now for every example a counter example can be made and different variables and can come in to play.

Thank god I put a disclaimer.

 

[Dizzy]

DIzz you can buy a custom case. I hardly thingk that we can be accused of skimping buying a SKB case. If it were up to me I would not offer cases at all. It is a pain in the butt. We make zero margin have to warehouse 2000 of them and most shipping problems are caused by the case.

If we flet that the customer wanted to pay the premium for a different case for each model than we would offer it.

Thanks for the comment BP.

I wouldn't for one moment mention the word skimping when it comes to any of your products...... you've got a great thing going here

My initial post led me to the topic discussed in a previous thread, where you provided "give" as the reason for the loose fit of the SKB cases.
I've done my best to provide what could be informative feedback regarding the protection of our fine instruments.

Your reply has answered my initial question.
It IS an Economic AND Ergonomic issue :

* Economic :
I understand the logistics of having 1000's of cases, let alone having to organise them for each guitar model. Plus the extra costs would only transfer through to the us..... I'm a businessman too, and this AIN'T skimping..... it's deciding what's best for business and customers alike.
It'd be interesting to get an idea of how much the premium you mentioned we'd have to pay for each guitar... any numbers available ?
We could actually poll the idea to see if we're prepared to pay the extra ?!
We're prepared to pay extra for Matching Headstocks, Colours, Piezos etc etc........ might be the same for cases ?!

* Ergonomic :
From the replies it seems most people are happy with the cases.

Yes, we can all buy custom cases, should we wish.
Through forums like this we can discuss ideas, concerns or ask questions...... and it usually proves beneficial to all involved.

Personally, I'm actually AM a fan of the SKB cases..... and for general transit, I'll carry them around no problems, but :

TIP : For longer trips, or if there may be a few bumps along the way (i.e. neanderthal baggage handlers), use your socks, undies, soft t-shirts etc from your regular luggage to fill the gaps around your guitar...... i.e personally customise the fit of your case to keep the guitar snug !
(or get a full on custom flight-case )

EXTRA TIP : Just in case customs want to check your baggage, it's best not to choose your Superman or Spiderman underwear....... could be a little embarrassing !

PS : BP, I responded to your comment on my boots in the MBT thread.......

 

[Big Poppa]

Diz I dont have a problem with the topic at all...I just have real life experience from shipping a few HUNDRED THOUSAND instruments and SKB has got it figured out after MILLIONS of cases. The seat belt is the best analogy...


I still have my blunstones from my last tour of australia 13 years ago....

 

[Dizzy]

Diz I dont have a problem with the topic at all...I just have real life experience from shipping a few HUNDRED THOUSAND instruments and SKB has got it figured out after MILLIONS of cases. The seat belt is the best analogy...

I still have my blunstones from my last tour of australia 13 years ago....

Hehe, I knew you didn't have a problem.

Bring your Blundies next time you're here and I'll buy you a beer....... in a nice snug-fitting stubby holder!

 

[lumberjack]

BP,

I for one hope you continue to include the cases with the guitars. As far as I'm concerned they offer great protection, and they are pretty lightweight as opposed to other cases I've come across. When I got my 20th Silo I was surprised that the tweed case was heavier than the regular black ones.

P.S. If you were ever going to redesign the cases, I'd like to see one of the storage compartments become a closed compartment with a metal button closure or something like that. Just my 2 cents.

Scott

 

[uvacom]

From a physics standpoint, I don't think there's much issue with the idea that a snugly fitted guitar inside a case will provide better protection than a loosely fitted one. Look at any packaging, for any product you have. The more fragile and valuable the product, the more it's packaging will restrict it's mobility. What you want ideally is for the object to be snuggly fitted inside something which will provide damping. Guitars are no special exception to physics.

The issue though is, what is adequate protection? That's all anybody should care about. Of course there is always something better, but it will cost more. I think SKB has designed a case that will provide adequate protection to a guitar for gigging/travel/shipment. And the fact that it's virtually universal means that it is very economical, something we all enjoy.

Would a well-engineered custom fit for each guitar provide better protection? Probably. Do you need more protection than what the SKB case offers? Probably not. There's no point in overengineering something.

 

[candid_x]

My mate had one of these with his OLP - nice cases they are too!

Would be even nicer with an EBMM logo sewn onto it . They really are incredibly handy. Haven't yet experienced any problems with the heavy zipper. Before this I had a cheaper one of the same type, but with canvas handles, and that was pretty crapola (great for shipping though, due to the light weight), but I really dig these. I carry 4 cables, channel and reverb switcher, several sets of strings, spare tubes, tuner.. all that good stuff in one light weight case. Oh, a guitar too.

 

[rmh925]

Well i don't really have a problem with the cases that come with the guitars now, and i'm just happy they do come with one, but if i had a preference i like the G&G cases better, and yes i know they are heavier....my 2 pennies.

 

[CudBucket]

Cases is cases. Unless you've got a flight case, and your guitar gets whacked well enough, it's gonna git hurt. I don't care if it's in a plywood case, SKB type, etc. The main purpose of a case is to provide a convenient way of carrying your guitar out the house. It puts a handle on yer axe.

I mean, even if I'm seat-belted into my car, I still don't want to hit the wall.

Carry on.

Dave

 

[Colin]

I mean, even if I'm seat-belted into my car, I still don't want to hit the wall.

don't drive with my wife then....

 

[jeffrey]

I do prefer my 1st gen JP7 case over the newer one I've recieved. It fits the guitar a lot better. Unfortunately the hinges on that case have just about exploded off of it. It's currently being held together with duct tape. Seems to work okay for now I guess.

 

[jazzbo jim]

actually, the EBMM case is the only case I actually LIKE. I prefer gigbags.
The EB case is compact, LIGHT and dang protective.
The fact that I can walk proud because of the MUSICMAN logo is a bonus!

BTW, did MM ever make a bag SPECIFICALLY for the Axis? ie, a shorter than normal bag?

 

[Spudmurphy]

Cases is cases. Unless you've got a flight case, and your guitar gets whacked well enough, it's gonna git hurt. I don't care if it's in a plywood case, SKB type, etc. The main purpose of a case is to provide a convenient way of carrying your guitar out the house. It puts a handle on yer axe.

I mean, even if I'm seat-belted into my car, I still don't want to hit the wall.

Carry on.

Dave

Thank the lord for seat belts !!!

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

Well i don't really have a problem with the cases that come with the guitars now, and i'm just happy they do come with one, but if i had a preference i like the G&G cases better, and yes i know they are heavier....my 2 pennies.

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