Adwex
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Hmmm, was my post deleted?
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It's a hyper freezing method, supposed to align molecules of metal. Callaham offers it on certain parts, included on Fralin pickups. I have no idea if it actually does anything with guitar parts, but I know for certain it can improve accuracy of target/varmint rife barrels.
.009s stiff on JP6
I'm glad I found other players who experience the same phenomenon w/ the JP6.
After playing for 34 years with mainly Strats, Pauls ,Washburns, Kramers, and Ibanezes, I found that bending strings on my JP6 w/ .009s feels like when I started playing in '73 and didn't know that strings came in gauges so the local shop put .012s (!!) on my guitar and sent me home to practice my JimmyPage riffs!! Don' get me wrong, it is a very comfortable axe to play and it forces you to do warm-ups properly. However, it is a guitar that I look at and say to myself "how much of a good workout do I want today?"
I'm glad I found other players who experience the same phenomenon w/ the JP6.
After playing for 34 years with mainly Strats, Pauls ,Washburns, Kramers, and Ibanezes, I found that bending strings on my JP6 w/ .009s feels like when I started playing in '73 and didn't know that strings came in gauges so the local shop put .012s (!!) on my guitar and sent me home to practice my JimmyPage riffs!! Don' get me wrong, it is a very comfortable axe to play and it forces you to do warm-ups properly. However, it is a guitar that I look at and say to myself "how much of a good workout do I want today?"
Big Poppa
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a .009 or any string for that matter will have the exact same amount of pounds per suare inch when brought to pitch on any of our guitars as they all have the same scale length. (same as all fenders too) What you are experiencing is the thinner neck for some does not give an "anchor point" for stability for some players hence the feeling that the tension is higher.
I could win many bets with you guys on this It is basic physics.
I could win many bets with you guys on this It is basic physics.
GoKart_MoZart
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Count me out. I never bet against the house when the odds are this stacked. Or when physics are involved...
pjc812
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Physics is physics, you can't cheat it. Sort of like gravity. The tensions will be the same assuming identical setups.
The difference with hardtails and trems is when you go to bend the strings. A hardtail won't give. Depending on your trem setup, it will give and thus making the bend a little easier.
That could open up a whole other discussion though. Are string bends more accurate on a hardtail which gives you two fixed points? Theoretically you'd have to bend it farther on a trem in order to hit the correct pitch because one of the anchor points is moving and effectively lowering the pitch of the string at one end while you are trying to raise it at another.
My brain hurts, it's too early in the morning for such philosophical thoughts on wankage
The difference with hardtails and trems is when you go to bend the strings. A hardtail won't give. Depending on your trem setup, it will give and thus making the bend a little easier.
That could open up a whole other discussion though. Are string bends more accurate on a hardtail which gives you two fixed points? Theoretically you'd have to bend it farther on a trem in order to hit the correct pitch because one of the anchor points is moving and effectively lowering the pitch of the string at one end while you are trying to raise it at another.
My brain hurts, it's too early in the morning for such philosophical thoughts on wankage
whitestrat
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Ok. THIS I understand. Doesn't explain the differences in different brand strings on the same guitar though, but that's just me. I'll go back to my cave and meditate on these points... maybe I'll be able to come up with a formula for making 0.13s feel like 0.8s!!!
This thread sort of reminds me of the time Callaham, John Suhr and Mike Eldred were debating on the differences in steel blocks on the Fender Discussion Page...
Big Poppa
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White strat
here is a better way to explain try bending strings on a neck without having your hand on the back of the neck. The anchor point Im referring to is where the hand rests on the back of the neck. A meatier neck will give some additional support
70 degree water can feel really cold if its hot outside and really warm if its cold but it is still 70 degrees......It feels what it feels to you
here is a better way to explain try bending strings on a neck without having your hand on the back of the neck. The anchor point Im referring to is where the hand rests on the back of the neck. A meatier neck will give some additional support
70 degree water can feel really cold if its hot outside and really warm if its cold but it is still 70 degrees......It feels what it feels to you
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whitestrat
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Is that like the old "which weighs more, a ton of lead or a ton of feathers"? .........
mesadualrec
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after reading through this Im somewhat surprised becuase as soon as I recieved my Jp it felt like it was apart of me,I felt that confident with it I played a gig 3 hours after I got it
I havent had a problem with my JP setup apart from a constantly breaking High 'E'
I havent had a problem with my JP setup apart from a constantly breaking High 'E'
Big Poppa
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This thread is why I dont like customer service posts on the forum this amounts to almost 1200 views because the guitar isnt comfortable....
mesadualrec
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yeah it obviously not the guitar for him
my only question is......why did you buy it if you arnt comfortable with it????
As I said I wouldnt have bought mine if I didnt fall in love straight away
its the best guitar I have or even will have
my only question is......why did you buy it if you arnt comfortable with it????
As I said I wouldnt have bought mine if I didnt fall in love straight away
its the best guitar I have or even will have
'Frustrated' update
I bought it on a whim on ebay knowing I can resell it easily here in the NY Metropolitan area and the wait to order one is at least 3 months! I am a big fan of Petrucci's style and have been buying guitars off auction sights with great
satisfaction so the curiosity factor was big. I'm a strat player anyway, so this guitar, the more I play it, is definitely growing on me. I do all my own set-ups so sometimes it just takes a little experimenting to achieve a comfort zone when changing string gauge, action etc. when you find a guitar that has good 'bones' or sounds like something you'd really enjoy to play. Hey kids, I'm 47 years old and I'm still learning new things about guitar so you see it never gets boring, just a little frustrating sometimes, BTW, took my son w/ me to see DT 4 nights ago-
Unbelievable!! Putting new spins on oldies, that Jordan has a strap-on keyboard that lets him come stagefront and center and jam w/ JP doing all those cool harmony riffs! Catch them if they come to your area.... Peace
I bought it on a whim on ebay knowing I can resell it easily here in the NY Metropolitan area and the wait to order one is at least 3 months! I am a big fan of Petrucci's style and have been buying guitars off auction sights with great
satisfaction so the curiosity factor was big. I'm a strat player anyway, so this guitar, the more I play it, is definitely growing on me. I do all my own set-ups so sometimes it just takes a little experimenting to achieve a comfort zone when changing string gauge, action etc. when you find a guitar that has good 'bones' or sounds like something you'd really enjoy to play. Hey kids, I'm 47 years old and I'm still learning new things about guitar so you see it never gets boring, just a little frustrating sometimes, BTW, took my son w/ me to see DT 4 nights ago-
Unbelievable!! Putting new spins on oldies, that Jordan has a strap-on keyboard that lets him come stagefront and center and jam w/ JP doing all those cool harmony riffs! Catch them if they come to your area.... Peace
brentrocks
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maybe i missed this, but the JP comes w/ 10s from the factory?
Sweat
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I may be wrong but regular JP`s come with 10`s and BFR`s are setup with 9`s, but since I am a 9-42 type of guy I asked Pete and Nick to set my new JP up with 9`s and what a KICK ASS job they did it is just unreal how well it plays not one problem, this whole set up thread needs to go away, not one ball I have played or owned has had a problem of any type, I personally think it is the player not the axe
brentrocks
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I may be wrong but regular JP`s come with 10`s and BFR`s are setup with 9`s, but since I am a 9-42 type of guy I asked Pete and Nick to set my new JP up with 9`s and what a KICK ASS job they did it is just unreal how well it plays not one problem, this whole set up thread needs to go away, not one ball I have played or owned has had a problem of any type, I personally think it is the player not the axe
thanks man!
did you sell your old jp???
