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ghunter

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I knew there was a reason I was hesitating buying my first Gibson product. Just when I was getting over the disgust of them buying and shutting down Opcode, Oberheim, and Trace Elliot I find out about this skunky matter.

As much as I'd like a Les Paul, I don't want to fund Gibson's legal department on another trivial lawsuit or acquisition binge. It's just not good for anyone long-term.
 

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I have followed this for quite some time off and on. Congrats to Paul Reed Smith and it's employees. Glad to see them win.

:cool:
 

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Big Poppa said:
I keep telling you guys that most of the manufacturers are respectful and very friendly. We kind of share a compeetitive comraderie.

This is off topic, but BP's comment reminded me of a really great feature in an old Guitar Player magazine (August 1995 issue). It was a roundtable of guitar manufacturers and included Dudley from EBMM, Paul Smith, Ken Parker, Jol Danzig (of Hamer), and Tom Anderson among others. The only ones conspicuously absent were representatives from Gibson and Fender.

If I had a scanner, I would post up copy, but I was impressed by how passionate all the participants were about the art/craft of making fine guitars, how they could be very similar in their thinking but approach their answer in so many creative ways, and most importantly how much they respected each other.

Back on topic, good for PRS that this is finally behind them.
 

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Big Poppa said:
Gibson moved aggressively, filing a suit in Nashville that asserted trademark infringement. After several years of expensive and drawn-out litigation, the local federal district court judge initially sided with Gibson. That court ordered PRS to stop sales of its Singlecut®.
Really? A good ole boy judge in Nashville did that? Being from Nashville I am not surprised.
Big Poppa said:
The court observed that Gibson conceded that only "an idiot" would ever confuse a PRS Singlecut® and a Gibson Les Paul.

Wait a minute....
I was looking at a Les Pual and a single cut PRS side by side just this last weekend. I recall thinking to myself, " There's no way those are the same guitars". That means I'm not an idiot!!!...... according to Gibson guitars.

Should I ask what other guitar manufactures think?
 

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every thread always goes back to foggy not having any balls:p
 

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NorM said:
Really? A good ole boy judge in Nashville did that? Being from Nashville I am not surprised.


Wait a minute....
I was looking at a Les Pual and a single cut PRS side by side just this last weekend. I recall thinking to myself, " There's no way those are the same guitars". That means I'm not an idiot!!!...... according to Gibson guitars.

Should I ask what other guitar manufactures think?

NoRm the funny thing is that when the court of appeals rejected gibsons claim they heavily chastised the local judge and the local judge included for the record an apology for him Homer judgement.
 

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Big Poppa said:
NoRm the funny thing is that when the court of appeals rejected gibsons claim they heavily chastised the local judge and the local judge included for the record an apology for him Homer judgement.

Haha! The judge actually included an apology for his opinion? Unbelievable!
I wish a few more judges would be compelled to apologize for their bonehead rulings, too. :p
 

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He's a bass player, give him a break :p


hey now ... what did i just order from u? ;)
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Based on your sig Phatduckk - I's say your 38% guitar player and 62% Bassist :D

 

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Very cool that PRS won. It was a ridiculous lawsuit to begin with. Other than both guitars being singlecuts, they are two totally different looking guitars.

If Gibson put all there energy into coming up with something new and innovative instead of wasting their time on lawsuits, they'd be doing something.
 

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Norrin Radd said:
One thing that EBMM and PRS have in common is their dedication to super high quality production consistency across the board. These are the best two guitar companies at reaching that goal, bar none. For exampl, when I pick up an EBMM or a PRS in a store, I don't have to worry about cutting the side of my hand on the frets sticking out....:mad:
+1

I tell anyone who'll listen that's looking for a guitar, if they're interested in a Gibson-style guitar, go look at PRS... If they think they might want a Fender, go look at Music Man... If you can get past the name on the headstock, I don't think it's hard to see why both Music Man and PRS have been successful in the upper end of the production guitar market. They're the best value production guitars available today, imho...
 

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Jimi D said:
+1

I tell anyone who'll listen that's looking for a guitar, if they're interested in a Gibson-style guitar, go look at PRS... If they think they might want a Fender, go look at Music Man... If you can get past the name on the headstock, I don't think it's hard to see why both Music Man and PRS have been successful in the upper end of the production guitar market. They're the best value production guitars available today, imho...

I totally agree

Pay for the workmanship, not for the logo and the sticker on the headstock !!!
 

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edensdad said:
Based on your sig Phatduckk - I's say your 38% guitar player and 62% Bassist :D

i think if you tallied up all my guitars (including my non MM ones) then I probably own more 6 strings than basses. hmm lemme think for a second ...

<finished counting>
in total I have 6 basses & 7 guitars (not counting the silo on order)

woah - mabye im a guitar player? dammit!
 

jongitarz

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phatduckk said:
i think if you tallied up all my guitars (including my non MM ones) then I probably own more 6 strings than basses. hmm lemme think for a second ...

<finished counting>
in total I have 6 basses & 7 guitars (not counting the silo on order)

woah - mabye im a guitar player? dammit!


Hah!
 
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