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Beth said:
I could see how people read it that way - I thought "whoa, we're goin into the Danger Zone here", but since I deal with people whose second language is English every day (or sometimes 3rd or 4th) I thought I should re-read the post before I jumped to any conclusions.

After some consideration I figured the message read like this "I was debating whether I myself should check the balance.." i.e. he was overwhelmed/excited/grateful to have even been receiving donations. Am I being totally naive in thinking this?


yes........& that's why we all love yo so much..........:)
 

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I didn't read all the new post yet , I have to clarrify this first , too bad I was at work today , cause I didn't see the evolution since I went to bed last night

I gotta say I'm sorta shocked really , I do understand your position on feeling "slaped" maybe by me only saying 50%

but Tommy said it , it's because I do feel REALLY awkward about asking money , you guys send , helped me out more than I ever whished for , and just the thoughts of you sending money was too awesome , I never get helped like that , usually I 'm the one in the pit , giving money to my pals or listening to them , finding solution untill my friends are fine. When I saw the money coming in I just couldn't believe it , cause money was sent to the pawnshop already , and it was like weight of my shoulders.

I didn't wanna say " okai so I'm at 194" and ppl would could " so he's asking for more ", cause I never asked for the money , and I couldn't be more happy that you donnated it and helped like that.

sorry , I'm just really am sad and confused right now , I never ment to hurt anyone , and I didn't know if it was right for me to post it out , fearing "bragging" the situation .

Cause everytime I talk about the situation to friends who learned about that I was getting my bass back , I feel this weird amazed kinda feeling , like when you just .... id unno I don't have the words for that. but now feeling ppl regret giving me money or helping me out .. it,s ... I'm sorry it sucks !

and yeah my email is "vintagejazzbass" ... because , despite his humongus body , and enormus headstock , and sound that just makes you wanna sit down and relax instead of jumping around and crank the volum up, I love the block inlays, and plate covers , and my email can be whatever it can be, I love basses , it's my whole life , the only thing I feel right doing whenever . I love the sound , i love the feels , I love difference in sound, shape , color from the darn bass body, look or it's sounds. My last email was flaming_bassist ... cause I could play like fire on the ErnieBall Music Man Streling Trans Gold. pulling stuff I never had pulled before , dreaming of stuff I never had before, when I bought that bass , it was the complete feeling of " wow , I made it , I got an Sterling , now it's all down hill from here , any other basses are just toy next to this one " ...

but one day , some ppl made fun " why Flaming?....thats fagish man" cause to me flaming was being on fire , being the man. whatever ... but I learned the other meaning of it ... and it's just annyoing to be the laughing stock sometimes ... so I changed ( maybe it's dork , but so what ) , for vintagejazzbass , cause a friend of mine sold me his cause I needed a bass, and was verry happy so that felt right. I don't go on Fender forum, i don't even think they have any , how many of you has a fender ? a Ibanez ? Warwrick ? Washburn ? Epiphone ? why are you here ? because it's the only place where bass talk is fun ? or only because you love music man more than anything , or because you think that music man makes really really really good stuff , and that those strings are so ****ing A ? or all of that ?

Why some times some ppl leaves ,... cause Sticking infront of my pc reading about new color and stuff , I don't always have that time or interest in being here reading everythreads ,I like to go play , try stuff , between life and other stuff ...

I asked here cause I knew some people would understand my pain about losing a music man , I just wanned to track it down to get it back , cause it's my baby.

How would I have help ppl that comes here on a regular bassis .. BP ? .. I dunno .. by helping anyone like I do and like we ALL do everyday , cheering up any kid , dude , girls, folks anywhere I can . by just smiling to someone who needs it or by saying hello to someone lonely ( I won't say want I did for friends cause it,s out of place ). like we all do. and if I would have came here to check out some info on new basses or new topic on this new bass I couldn't afford yet. and would have read a thread like I posted , I would have jump in too , like anyone.

My goal in this ****ING LIFE IS TO HELP PEOPLE IN ANY WAY (possible) and THAT'S WHY I FREAKING WANNA PLAY MUSIC , TO SHARE LOVE , SOUND , AND A FEELING OF HELP ... AND COMUNICATION BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT IN LIFE AND TOO MANY THINGS ARE TAKEN WRONGLY FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS, OR EXPRESSION WHEN YOU GET EMOTIVE AND YOU HAVE 2 billions THINGS TO UNDERSTAND AT ONCE AND ****.

I 've been calling police and getting turned back for 6 months long , I cut off work to be able to get some police on the line , I have to deal with a pawnshop that says it's gonna be sending it when this or that , and to who I can not kick the ass of. you help the **** out of me and now there is this idea of me yanking you off ?

I wouldn't have ask more than I need, I only do that with food , which I tend to never waste. I'm paying for the shipping fees which are not given either. but I would have not taken more than I need , which is 450$ to get that trans gold baby to me.


I'm sorry if I'm bit pissed and irritated right now , but that hurt , and now I have to read what was said after , I don't even know yet if it's positive , and calming ppl down or not ..

but at least that will me my answer to this weird vibe that came across

I'm sorry if I said something the wrong way , my english is "okai" but like any langage emotion can distord it really quickly , and I guess I'm an emotional guy when it comes to happiness or dissapointment ...

now I'll go read the rest and post something else or more
 
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JF -

I'm a strong believer in good things happen to good people - following your misfortune earlier this year, I genuinely believe a good thing has happened here to a good person.

E-mail/forum written word can often be misinterpreted - no harm/no foul.

Personally I'm glad to have contributed in a small way to you recovering your baby - I'm sure we all do. :)
 

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Beth said:
I could see how people read it that way - I thought "whoa, we're goin into the Danger Zone here", but since I deal with people whose second language is English every day (or sometimes 3rd or 4th) I thought I should re-read the post before I jumped to any conclusions.

After some consideration I figured the message read like this "I was debating whether I myself should check the balance.." i.e. he was overwhelmed/excited/grateful to have even been receiving donations. Am I being totally naive in thinking this?


no........& that's why we all love yo so much.......... ;)
 

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Now I thank the ppl who believed in me, those who talked to me heard it in my tone or something ,

look next time some one has a scary idea to spread about something I said , EMAIL ME , DEAL WITH ME and I'll correct my saying then..

Good thing i came on today , cause I was fairly exausted after work and was to not even getonline tonight , but I checked my mails like i do every night and said " why not hitting the forum to let them know what is up "


Now if one of you think I said all those " compliments" about that sterling in purpose to seem nice , NO it's not that , I REALLY DO LOVE EB MM STUFF , I'm quite dissapointed about the new basses I tried , but that cause I didn't run it through amps like I would have had at home and as loud ( and yes Ben I live at my parents ) , and also cause I kept on having the feeling " this is nice , but it's not what I want , so i don't like it "

and I 'm fed up with justifying myself right now ,

Again , yes I'm tryping in a bitterish... no I'm mad , sorry i'm mad , maybe cause I took the first post about me being Jerking around really on the wrong foot and I just went all the way down to "Pissed Off Town" but yes , I bet no one entend to be mean just like i didn't but , yeah , bottom line , Nicotine calls my name, out for a smoke

I 'll be back tomorrow around 9 or 10 pm ..
 
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Jean,

Nobody was trying to insult you, so please try not to get too sensitive to the posts here. I think all Big Poppa really said was that:

a) you should give a full accounting of all the money you receive from the forum members, and take some measure to stop the PayPal donations when the bass is paid off.

b) you should chip in too. You can determine that amount.

I don't know what the shipping is costing you (ideally your employer can help minimize that expense) but maybe you should put something down. For example, maybe you're in for $40 and the total cost with shipping is $500, then you'd accept up to $460 from the forum.

Maybe post a message with each donation listed, and go back and edit that same post every time you get donations. Do this until the bass is paid for or the donations stop coming. If you reach the full amount, post a new thread to let everyone know to stop donating.

That's all anyone is asking for, no need to justify yourself or anything else. I think BP's comment about you leaving the forum was just an observation, not a judgement. After all, it took some effort to locate you when the bass was found!

Finally, I must know.. did I locate the right myspace page?
 

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SteveB said:
Jean,

Nobody was trying to insult you, so please try not to get too sensitive to the posts here. I think all Big Poppa really said was that:

a) you should give a full accounting of all the money you receive from the forum members, and take some measure to stop the PayPal donations when the bass is paid off.

b) you should chip in too. You can determine that amount.

I don't know what the shipping is costing you (ideally your employer can help minimize that expense) but maybe you should put something down. For example, maybe you're in for $40 and the total cost with shipping is $500, then you'd accept up to $460 from the forum.

Maybe post a message with each donation listed, and go back and edit that same post every time you get donations. Do this until the bass is paid for or the donations stop coming. If you reach the full amount, post a new thread to let everyone know to stop donating.

That's all anyone is asking for, no need to justify yourself or anything else. I think BP's comment about you leaving the forum was just an observation, not a judgement. After all, it took some effort to locate you when the bass was found!

Finally, I must know.. did I locate the right myspace page?

I agree , although i'm not gonna remove the post , cause i said it , so it must stay here , I'm usually really cool , but lately I'm kinda emotive ...can't help it right now

I 'll keep the tracking up by with the "signature idea " NorM has suggested me , unless everyone requests a big board with all the info an stuff , (I wouldn't want anyone say " oh he gave 20 , haha this dude sent 5 , oh look a loonie " ( just and exemple ) if that makes sense , unless if you all wanna know , I'll post)

I'm have good rates and all the shipping will cost me about 60$ to 100$ which I will gladely pay ,

if there is a way to put a pay pal limit , please tel me I will put one.

about the myspace thing , what's your screen name , but i'm sure you did , if you heard the weird garage like ska thing haha
 
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Aw, Jean-Frederic! We didn't mean it that way. I think we all got really into the happy ending story and when we didn't hear from you (because you obviously have a life and go out and enjoy it -- unlike us forum perverts who sit on here for hours all day) right away after we posted the solution of donating money to get your bass back. I would feel the same way about the situation if people were bending over backwards to help me financially, it would be hard to accept the money but I would also feel rendered speechless if it was actually happening to me.

That said, we do know that you're one of us now. I know my $20 was money well spent!
 

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JF, don't worry about a thing. I've talked to BP a few times over the last two days or so and it was really just a question of trying to figure out what you meant.

In the end, we agreed that the best part of this was how the members of the forum responded.

Sometimes language can be very difficult. It was a little hard to figure out what you meant at one point, but I think we can all agree that you were doing the best you could and so were the forum members.

If we're all doing the best we can, what more can be asked of us?

I'm sincerely glad you're getting your bass back. Let me know if I can help you in any way. I'm completely sure that BP - once he reads your posts - will agree that we are all on the same page, that we are all working together to do the best that we can do.

You forumites, never doubt that you are the absolute best.

Jack
 

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Hey JF, if you need me to go back to the Pawn Shop lemme know. This time I won't take my son and I'll make sure to listen to some Motorhead on the way and have a shot or two of Wild Turkey before I go in :cool:
 

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Jf
I dont change anything I posted...give everyone an accounting and make sure between the language barriers that you appreciate what these guys are doing for you and Im ok.

How you can feel hurt when this forum found your bass and is buying it for you is outlandinsh....just handle it properly and dont blame me. Im looking out for everyone here.
 

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Leave the blaming to me (that's sarcasam)

I blame Big Poppa for making me wait to contribute to Jean-Frédéric to help retrive his stolen bass. I also blame Big Poppa for getting Jean-Frédéric to stand up, explain himself and let us all know how he felt and what his intensions really are. Standing in the middle was a good call. It helped me to have a little more trust and faith in the world. Even if my world lives in this little corner of the internet. It is what makes me happy.

I proudly sent some $USD to you Jean-Frédéric. Also I am sorry you had to go through yet another turn on this emotional rollercoaster. I do salute you for standing up (once again) and saying how you felt.
 

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Jean-Frédéric said:
I 've been calling police and getting turned back for 6 months long , I cut off work to be able to get some police on the line , I have to deal with a pawnshop that says it's gonna be sending it when this or that , and to who I can not kick the ass of. you help the **** out of me and now there is this idea of me yanking you off ?

You need to chill out a bit, JF.

What have you done about getting legal advice? Do you know who it was sold the bass? What are you doing about making sure you get that money back off him?
 

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well I for one I am sorry for what I said.....language can be a problem especially when its written down and its not your first lingo....bon chance mon ami et je suis desolate JF.:eek:

On a different note...have you thought about going to the local paper? A decent journo might be able to bring a different weight to the matter on your behalf, same with legal eagles.....
 

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dlloyd said:
You need to chill out a bit, JF.

What have you done about getting legal advice? Do you know who it was sold the bass? What are you doing about making sure you get that money back off him?

To get him arrested I need to fly to BC first , but the dude as I have been told by the down stair neighbore , moved out the house with now fowarding adresse , and police said they didn't knwo where he was at all , pawnshop dude told them he was out of the province somewhere ....and they CAN'T arrest him for that, actually they can only give him a fine..


BP I got hurt on the moment , because what came out of it afterward was just a big suspicion that I would be no better than the guy who pawned my bass in my back, plus I was late when I read and all , whatever , that sucked at the moment ,I got carried away , and stood up because i could see that some ppl started to really think i was going aganst them
 

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Jean-Frédéric said:
To get him arrested I need to fly to BC first , but the dude as I have been told by the down stair neighbore , moved out the house with now fowarding adresse , and police said they didn't knwo where he was at all , pawnshop dude told them he was out of the province somewhere ....and they CAN'T arrest him for that, actually they can only give him a fine..

Of course, I don't have that much of a grasp on Canadian law, but surely there's some distinction there between criminal and civil law? Of course, not knowing where he is causes problems...
 

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Jean-Frédéric said:
Oh an anyone knows how to put a stopper to the PayPal so it doesn't exceed ?

Not sure you can do that but it shouldn't matter. Just keep a running total and if it goes over the amount you need, you can always "reject" payments and thereby refund any overpayments made (I think). Best of luck mate, it's a great story and I really hope you get your bass back. The people on this forum never cease to amaze.

So I guess I should consider getting a trans-finish for my next MM bass, just in case!

Dave
 
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