JP BFR Baritones

[Astrofreq]

I'm definitely interested in these too. I'm curious how they sound. I had an Ibanez MMM1 for awhile and it sounded great. I'm sure this is leagues better, albeit quite a bit more loot needed to get it.

Question, and I hope this doesn't come off as rude because I don't mean to be. Is there a way to remove the signature from the headstock? It's just not my thing, no disrespect to JP. Has anyone tried? I'm betting he wouldn't want my name on his guitars.

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

The EBMM logo and the signature on all the EBs I have seen are under the clearcoat. If it bothers you that much I would just put a piece of black electrical tape over it. That way if you ever decide to sell the guitar you can get top dollar for it.

 

[Astrofreq]

Makes sense. Thanks. It does bother me, but my bank account would be the bigger inhibitor from buying this guitar than the signature. I'm sure this has been asked before, but do you have six fingers for real?

 

[Paul Warren]

Question, and I hope this doesn't come off as rude because I don't mean to be. Is there a way to remove the signature from the headstock? It's just not my thing, no disrespect to JP. Has anyone tried? I'm betting he wouldn't want my name on his guitars.

I absolutely understand that you aren't being rude, but I thought I would offer up a different perspective on this in case it helped. I realize with many sig models out there on the market that it's pretty much a fairly stock guitar with just some minor mods and the signature slapped on there. I could see how people might not want that signature on their if they don't want to "endorse" that player in any way.

However, with JP's guitar specifically, you are getting something designed by JP from the ground up. Of course, I don't mean he engineered it. But he's a pro with years and years of experience in all sorts of live and recording situations who took his knowledge, explained it to EB, and let them do the work to make it a reality. For instance, you cannot get that JP trem on ANY other guitar. It's not available by itself even though it's incredible! Absolutely, one of the best trems ever built. The neck shape, the arm scoop, the lower horn cutaway on the BFR - all of that stuff, are designs from a seasoned pro. So what you are really buying is what an experienced pro has poured into a guitar design. And we do that all of the time for other products out there on the market. We buy "signature chicken" every time we eat at KFC, lol. For some reason, there is sometimes an uneasiness that guitar players get when playing a guitar with a signature on it, but I'm just trying to explain why I think that, at least in this case, it's not logical to have. I think the only reason people don't feel the same way about buying "Les Pauls" is because that signature model has been around forever and people simply forgot that it's a signature model. But his name is on there.

Anyhow, that's my take on it. Hope I made sense with what I'm trying to say. And here's to hoping you can get one someday!

paul

 

[mesavox]

I just LOVE green guitars!!! Am I the only one who noticed the old-school arm scoop on the body of two of the baritones... If I can get the forearm scoop on a trans green 7, I might just have to eat my own words regarding not getting a BFR...

Cheers

Eske

No arm scoop on any of them... they're all the same contour.

 

[Big Poppa]

Paul

you are selling us short..the arm scoop was me and I c ould go on...John was very very involved but alot of it was intrepreting what he couldnt articlulate

 

[Paul Warren]

Paul

you are selling us short..the arm scoop was me and I c ould go on...John was very very involved but alot of it was intrepreting what he couldnt articlulate

Well, I can't articulate either. That's what I was basically trying to say. You took John's needs and helped him make them a reality. Obviously, what I meant is that EB's guitars are more developed in a personal sort of way than what people might think and in that respect, you're getting something that the artist was actually involved in. To hear JP talk about how much he loves his guitars and the craftsmanship involved, it's impressive and you can tell how much of a connection he has to all of it.

paul

 

[Astrofreq]

However, with JP's guitar specifically, you are getting something designed by JP from the ground up.

Yeah, I totally understand that and the design is amazing. But to say my stance is not logical is nonsense. I've spent years trying to find my own style of playing, why would I want someone to think of someone else when they look at my guitar? I just don't want another guy's name on my guitar. To me, that is totally illogical. TOTALLY, like to the max. For the record, I bought my EVH when I was 20 and I had the sig covered for about 10 years.

Sorry BP, I'll stop this discussion if you want. I wasn't trying to hijack, just wanted to know about how the sig was on the guitar.

 

[BigTony]

These are some absolutely amazing guitars. I have a feeling that 2008 is going to be a very interesting and exciting year for everyone.

I was soooo looking forward to 2008 already, and well, this is just outstanding news!

Can I do the dance now?

 

[roburado]

I have a feeling 2008 is going to take more money out of us than 2007.

 

[Pablo]

No arm scoop on any of them... they're all the same contour.

It may be an optical Illusion, but that sure looks like a scoop to me!

 

[Dizzy]

It may be an optical Illusion, but that sure looks like a scoop to me!

It certainly looks like some sort of compromise between the original JPs and the 1st BFRs, but I'm guessing it's a reflection / illusion? (The others don't seem to have it)

BP, any comment ?

 

[mesavox]

It's the light reflecting.

Two things give it away...

A. In the pic with the other two baris, the green one clearly doesn't have a scoop.

B. You can still see the line that matches the curve in the pictures that don't show the light reflecting the same way. All the guitars have the same curve line. The red one really gives it way... it has a very similar look in the curve that the green one does, and it is even more so clear that it doesn't have the scoop in the bottom photo, as well as obvious in the stand alone pic of it.

 

[mesavox]

In thoughts of details... I wonder if John will end up opting for the regular size body and the trem closer to the edge? It might seem a bit long compared to the way the Silo bass has the longer neck, but being set more in so you don't reach as far out with your left hand. Bass players prolly won't notice much... I wonder if John does. It's not my signature model, and baris are so cool sounding, I'd buy one either way, but I'm pretty sure I'd rather have the guitar scooted over to the right more when it hangs from the strap. Of course, John is taller than I am too, so that will play a factor in how this develops.

That is, if my ascertation is correct that these having been just built for John equates to them still being somewhat in prototype mode anyway. If they're pretty much done, my wonderings of a guy wishing he could mess with prototypes and see how they're developed are pretty much worthless. LOL

 

[marduke]

dont know if this was asked (didnt want to read through 6 pages to find out) but will the JP bari be available in standard issue colours? ie Mystic Dream, Desert Gold etc? if not thats cool, guess ill just have to save for a bit longer

 

[chrisallen]

probably not since the BFR is his current guitar. so these will all probably be the BFR style.

 

[the24thfret]

i just found this thread and woke up in a pool of my own drool...

and no, all these baris are BFRs, no "standard" models here

 

[mesavox]

I just read back through this thread... I guess I black out while reading off and on or something. I remember seeing BP's post the first time, but I didn't remember reading a bit of it. lol. Anyway, it pretty much answers my ponderings about how prototypical the baris are. lol Don't mind me, I just say random pointless things sometims. LOL