redeleon
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yes though i retired most of my ibbies, one of them is stll with me 
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David Corrales
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Man, that Ibanez axe looks killer :|!
bkrumme
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cm_17: yes it is all a matter of opinion. It's good to remember that, but you have to remember the majority of folks here on the EBMM forum are going to choose EBMM over Ibanez...I mean it's the forum for EBMM after all.
So while it may seem like we're anti-Ibanez I don't think that's the case. It's more like we're over-exuberant fans of EBMM so we choose them over other guitar makers. I also don't recall anyone saying that Ibanez was *bad*, just that they prefer EBMM.
Whether Ibanez was purposely trying to emulate the look of Music Man or not, you can't deny the resemblance. You have to consider, though, the basic look of most guitars on the market is similar. You have a single-cutaway style, or double-cutaway style.
So while it may seem like we're anti-Ibanez I don't think that's the case. It's more like we're over-exuberant fans of EBMM so we choose them over other guitar makers. I also don't recall anyone saying that Ibanez was *bad*, just that they prefer EBMM.
Whether Ibanez was purposely trying to emulate the look of Music Man or not, you can't deny the resemblance. You have to consider, though, the basic look of most guitars on the market is similar. You have a single-cutaway style, or double-cutaway style.
PaoloGilberto
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I like the way cm_17 thinks, it's important to try to be objective
and as far as I know, first were Fender and Gibson ...should they say that the brands that followed made copies?
and as far as I know, first were Fender and Gibson ...should they say that the brands that followed made copies?
Big Poppa
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Lets be respectful of other makers here...its ok to like ours better...that sfine...but remember the world is better served with more choices. I banez is a good company and nice people there.....I really dot like to slag anyone....THey sell a ton more stuff than we do. I see some inspiration in all of those guitars from us....that means we are making progress......
e.mate
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+1
After all, most of us started on something else then EBMM...and it's Ibbys in many cases, that give a lot of value for little money. If, at some stage, a player decides to be a knucklehead, that would be in most cases a sort of upgrade to the own variety of expression (not just the price), which only proves that you're developping as a musician. But as always in life, one is better remembering where you came from
Adamr
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when i first took up the guitar at 16 my first real guitar was an ibanez. i could never get it to stay in tune. it was a nightmare to re-string tune. maintain . it had a hell of a lot of buzz on the pickups. it clunked and fizzed all the time. so my experience isnt great of the brand. but it was a low end guitar. it put me off guitar a lot . so much that i gave up the guitar not long after. and didnt return to it until last year. i have tried other ibbys since and there a lot better than the one i had. but if someone asked me to name 10 top quality guitar manufacturers ibanez wouldnt be in it.
but having said that. that ibanez you have is the best looking one ive ever seen.
but having said that. that ibanez you have is the best looking one ive ever seen.
cm_17
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Yes you are. And good progress indeed.
Frankly, what did make me curious to get an EBMM was also the company's philosophy itself. To me, there is more to a company than just good guitars. I want to know that it comes from a sustainable place that treats its people right, plus keeps and dares to develop. Oh, and stays in touch with its customers, like here.
Ibanez is too big of a company for all that, that's why I am glad I found a great go-to dealer/tech for them. Too many only know the brand from the international low-priced segment, which is sometimes a world apart from the true made in Japan guitars they have. I'm curious about their upcoming models. And so am I about next year's EBMM selection
.David Corrales
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Personally I always craved for an Ibanez... until the EBMM JPM model appeared. When the time came to decide on which to blow serious $$$ I chose EBMM because it had some other features which are a lot better:
1) The JPM tremolo and locking tuners. God, I hate locking nuts and the "the guitar is in tune or the tremolo is straight, choose one" tremolos. I love the simplicity and looks of it (no wrenches to change strings!). Best trem ever to me.
2) The piezo. If you haven't tried piezo + electric with proper amps for each, do it. You won't go back. Ever.
3) The design itself. For example, I've always liked the JEM 7VWH but I find it's -way- too expensive and has an "image" attached to it. I don't see myself playing other styles of music which are not shred with it.
This point might be moot for some, but for a guitar worth $2500 I'd like to use it everywhere and not look weird.
4) Workmanship. A friend of mine has an Ibanez JPM 4 camo and it's nice, but not WOW OMG!!!. I see my EBMM JPM and I can see the quality into each and every single detail. It just feels top of the line.
Overall I still like Ibanez guitars (gotta love the headstock!) but they're not #1 for me as they used to be. Too bad EBMM doesn't have a Les Paul replacement guitar... I would want a similar type eventually. The Carvin's CS6 look killer for that purpose.
So, even if the Ibanez guitar looks similar it lacks of those features which is what sets the EBMM JPM aside for now
1) The JPM tremolo and locking tuners. God, I hate locking nuts and the "the guitar is in tune or the tremolo is straight, choose one" tremolos. I love the simplicity and looks of it (no wrenches to change strings!). Best trem ever to me.
2) The piezo. If you haven't tried piezo + electric with proper amps for each, do it. You won't go back. Ever.
3) The design itself. For example, I've always liked the JEM 7VWH but I find it's -way- too expensive and has an "image" attached to it. I don't see myself playing other styles of music which are not shred with it.
This point might be moot for some, but for a guitar worth $2500 I'd like to use it everywhere and not look weird.
4) Workmanship. A friend of mine has an Ibanez JPM 4 camo and it's nice, but not WOW OMG!!!. I see my EBMM JPM and I can see the quality into each and every single detail. It just feels top of the line.
Overall I still like Ibanez guitars (gotta love the headstock!) but they're not #1 for me as they used to be. Too bad EBMM doesn't have a Les Paul replacement guitar... I would want a similar type eventually. The Carvin's CS6 look killer for that purpose.
So, even if the Ibanez guitar looks similar it lacks of those features which is what sets the EBMM JPM aside for now
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I have played an Ibanez Prestige and it was truly a nice guitar. While Im not a big Floyd Rose fan, it seems like almost every Ibanez has a Floyd. Some models I really like but only offered with a Floyd. I like that about EBMM is not over saturation of Floyds, really a great selection of bridges and options on the guitar itself. What I also like about EBMM is its all american and if you get one you dont have to worry about it being the chinese version or indonesia or whatever. Japan makes some good guitars but I choose American over all so I choose EBMM now.
Kaloyan
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They definitely look funny. I guess somebody ran out of ideas ...
bkrumme
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You're also not seeing them on a flat surface. Might be worth a minute to check their website and take a look there. A picture of a picture can be misleading.
MusicManJP6
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+1! The JP neck and trem are second to none out there. Ibanez can keep their FR bridge and Wizard neck...
+2 I played a Wizard, then a Prestige neck and was like oohh thats nice. My store got a JP6 Mystic Dream in and I was like WOW now that is amazing. We had an Albert Lee and loved the feel of that neck then got ahold of the JP and became a believer.
