JPMM weird spring noise

[kelvinlkt]

hi, newbie here,

currently i'm having an issue about the spring noise from my JPMM, here is the case: when i play at the 14th fret of the 1st string (i.e. F#) and mute it immeadiately, the note will stop BUT with a weird noise, the noise sounds like ringing, and i have discover that the same problem remains at the 19th fret of the 2nd string and 23th fret of the 3rd string (still the F#)...

i'm quite sure the noise come from the back of my JPMM (the spring located at the back), i've test it already that if i use sth to stick on those spring the wierd noise disappear after i play the F# note...

i do think the same problem avaliable for the 4, 5 and 6 string...but the result (the weird niose) is not that obvious...

anyone can help me? i've already test three JPMM... and all of them got the same problem...what's goin on?

BTW i've change the string to D'arrdrio 009-042, but i do loosen the screw for turn down the tension of the spring...

thanks for helping me out...

 

[Random Hero]

Take the back off of your guitar. Get a tissue, fold it up, and put it on the springs. Then put the back back on the guitar. The noise, if it is what i'm thinking it is, should be gone.

 

[LasagneFTW]

Take the back off of your guitar. Get a tissue, fold it up, and put it on the springs. Then put the back back on the guitar. The noise, if it is what i'm thinking it is, should be gone.

+1, you summed it up perfectly.

i had the same thing, and that fixed it perfectly.

-ross

 

[tommyindelaware]

not to worry.....it's just the built in spring reverb.......

 

[Colin]

Take the back off of your guitar. Get a tissue, fold it up, and put it on the springs. Then put the back back on the guitar. The noise, if it is what I'm thinking it is, should be gone.

the best part of this is when all the G*bson and F*nder players start to cry because of your beautiful tone, you can hand them a tissue

 

[Philip]

LOL

 

[Random Hero]

the best part of this is when all the G*bson and F*nder players start to cry because of your beautiful tone, you can hand them a tissue

LOL.

Good point dude.

 

[peat]

vai does that to his jems

he stuffs the back of them full of tissue and replaces the trem cover plate with tape

i didnt find the tissue to be enough

so i would reccomend stuffing cotton wool inside the springs
as much as you can

wont affect your trem at all
and will kill that after ring

 

[kelvinlkt]

yeah i've try this way to kill the noise and it works, thanks dude~!!
i use a cloth for cleaning the glasses to solve the problem,
the sustain is perfect and exactply the same as b4,
but i got one question, is the JPMM of all yours having the same problem
or just mine one got the problem? or it's just a specific problem for the JPMM ONLY? wondering if other guitars got the same problem

btw, like the joke of "buuild in spring reverb" and "tissue"...
i remember that Vai got tons of tissue paper at his guitar back...

anyway thank you so much

 

[LasagneFTW]

yeah i've try this way to kill the noise and it works, thanks dude~!!
i use a cloth for cleaning the glasses to solve the problem,
the sustain is perfect and exactply the same as b4,
but i got one question, is the JPMM of all yours having the same problem
or just mine one got the problem? or it's just a specific problem for the JPMM ONLY? wondering if other guitars got the same problem

btw, like the joke of "buuild in spring reverb" and "tissue"...
i remember that Vai got tons of tissue paper at his guitar back...

anyway thank you so much

i've had that noise from any trem-equipped guitar that ive played, from any brand.
i speculate that its actually a good thing; it most likely means that you have really good sustain, as the block of the trem is vibrating sufficiently to transfer it to the springs.

but, that could be all hogwash
-ross

 

[kelvinlkt]

i've had that noise from any trem-equipped guitar that ive played, from any brand.
i speculate that its actually a good thing; it most likely means that you have really good sustain, as the block of the trem is vibrating sufficiently to transfer it to the springs.

but, that could be all hogwash
-ross

o really...that must be horrible for me...
since then, i'll check every note of my friend's guitar....

now my main cocern of buying a guitar is "is that guitar got the same problem?"

 

[GHWelles]

I have some guitars that do this, including my JP6. I wouldn't mind except it only happens on certain notes where the resonance is right. I tear apart a cotton ball and stuff the cotton in the springs. Works great.

 

[kelvinlkt]

I have some guitars that do this, including my JP6. I wouldn't mind except it only happens on certain notes where the resonance is right. I tear apart a cotton ball and stuff the cotton in the springs. Works great.

o yeah, i have think of doing sth like u, just stuff sth into the spring...
yet thinking what kind of material will works great~

what's ur JP6?

mine one is a 2005 limited edition, poor me...

 

[SteveB]

I have some guitars that do this, including my JP6. I wouldn't mind except it only happens on certain notes where the resonance is right. I tear apart a cotton ball and stuff the cotton in the springs. Works great.

My JP6 resonates the trem springs when certain notes are played, too. I actually like that about it. It's so friggin' SOLID! As far as I can tell, it doesn't affect the amplified sound. You can 'warble' the JP trem so easily.. much easier than other trem systems. I like that the springs are so sympathetic to what's going on with the fretboard.

 

[GHWelles]

what's ur JP6?

mine one is a 2005 limited edition, poor me...

Mine is a Graphite Pearl matching headstock 2005.
An LTD is cool!

 

[GHWelles]

My JP6 resonates the trem springs when certain notes are played, too. I actually like that about it. It's so friggin' SOLID! As far as I can tell, it doesn't affect the amplified sound. You can 'warble' the JP trem so easily.. much easier than other trem systems. I like that the springs are so sympathetic to what's going on with the fretboard.

Yes, my JP6 is incredibly resonant. I think the best and most resonant guitars are the ones with this issue. On mine the ringing can be heard through the amp, so I used the cotton in the springs.

 

[tommyindelaware]

o really...that must be horrible for me...
since then, i'll check every note of my friend's guitar....

now my main cocern of buying a guitar is "is that guitar got the same problem?"

don't worry about it..........
if it was a problem ........all guiatrs would come w/ dampened springs.
even a $30,000 PRS does it.........
go practice or somethin........

 

[eep]

i've had that noise from any trem-equipped guitar that ive played, from any brand.
i speculate that its actually a good thing; it most likely means that you have really good sustain, as the block of the trem is vibrating sufficiently to transfer it to the springs.

but, that could be all hogwash
-ross

Actually it is rather a bad thing.
every vibrating piece on your guitar is soaking energy from your strings. and less energy for the strings meens less oscillations and, at the end, less sustain.

That's the reason why it is commonly said, trem guitars have less sustain than non-trem guitars. (not due to the strings, but the whole trem has an important mass vibrating with the strings)

I think the simplest solution has already been posted several times. I cannot affirm a gain in sustain, but it is definitely less noisy.

eep

 

[Colin]

how much sustain do we really need?

 

[beej]

none, none more sustain