Les paul or music man jp

[Steve]

I own both and would take the JP over the Les Paul. It just feels more comfortable to me, I don't really feel comfortable with guitars without arm contours.

that's my 2 cents

 

[Big Poppa]

Knuckleheads

A Les Paul is a Les Paul. Lets pay respects to a legendary tool in Rock.

If there is something missing in the LP there is a good chance amongst the many models
we offer might float your boat, but a Les Paul is a really great guitar.

 

[JDouglee]

Knuckleheads

A Les Paul is a Les Paul. Lets pay respects to a legendary tool in Rock.

Right on Big Poppa!

LPs have their thing and so do EBMM. It's all good.

 

[Adwex]

The EBMM scale lengths are a little bigger than the Les Paul - 25.5 vs 24.75. (The classic Fender vs Gibson difference. I like the larger scale.)

Construction differs: bolt-on neck vs. one-piece. (I prefer bolt-on: the EBMM joint is rock-solid and your neck is always replaceable if need be.)

Never tried a JP, and I'd love to try a Morse, but.......

String guages being equal, the shorter scale of the Les Paul will result in less string tension for a "slinkier" feel. Easier bending, and the frets will be slightly closer together.

Les Paul necks are glued-in (set neck) with a mortise and tenon joint. The Custom Shop Historics have an even longer tenon, similar to the coveted '59, the most sought after guitar in the world. Good tone is all about vibration transfer and resonance between the strings and the body. A glued-in, set neck will transmit vibration better, so you'll "hear" the wood better (subjective, I know).

It's true that Les Pauls are expensive (especially the '59 reissue flametops), heavy, and typically have a signature thick and chunky sound, but it's the sound I've wanted since I was a teenager, and now that I have one, I will always have one. Gibson's quality control sucks, so you have to do some "shopping" to find a good one, but a good Les Paul and a good Marshall cannot be beat by anything.

Don't flame me, it's my birthday.

Adam

 

[Adwex]

Hello just looking for some advice on a new guitar im trying to decied between a les paul custom or reissue or a music man jp 6 string with piezo

ne one plz post your opinion

The "Slash" signature Les Paul has piezo.

 

[nocluejimbo]

How does the neck of the Silo 20th compare to a Petrucci or Axis? That tubular quilt top is killin' me!

It's been so long since I've played a Silo, and those are the only two I can find locally.

 

[Sigmunds Couch]

Knuckleheads

A Les Paul is a Les Paul. Lets pay respects to a legendary tool in Rock.

If there is something missing in the LP there is a good chance amongst the many models
we offer might float your boat, but a Les Paul is a really great guitar.

An LP is an LP. The tone is timeless. Just like the man and his vision.

Years from now, I hope / expect that the EBMM brand/family will be held in the same regard. My boat shall soon be floated again by an EBMM offering .

OT- Sterling, thanks again for the Open House hospitality, there are models that I am picking up that I would have never even considered. Being able to noodle with everything you guys produce was invaluable. (P.S. I just bought a Bongo, who'da thunk???)

 

[lock-ny]

Well I have a LP and a silo and 2axis and I was at NAMM this year so I played the 20th ann. silo which is a badass guitar for sure, and I will tell you that my fav is the silo special with a duncan in the bridge, but it still doesn't sound like the paul, nuthin does, I prefer the countours of the silo and the tone is great for hard rock as is the paul and the axis, you really need to play them, they are totally different animals but I would say if your in that direction then the axis or 20th ann silo would be closest to a paul tonewise, get the 20th ann silo and then get the paul down the road since they are available always, but I warn you youll wind up with more ebmm guitars first -

 

[koogie2k]

(P.S. I just bought a Bongo, who'da thunk???)

I just received my Stealth today.......

Anywho, again, I am not a fan of the Les Paul as it was not for me. It does have it's place in history. Try the different models out and pick the one that best suits you would be the best advice.

 

[tommyindelaware]

Check out the 20th Anniversary Silhouette.

& it stays in tune !!!!!!!!!!!!!
the headstock design on a les paul is very prone to strings sticking in the nut slots.

 

[SteveB]

Wow.. as mentioned the LP and JP are two utterly different guitars.

I played LP's all through the 1980's. Great, fat sounds.

Now I play a JP6 as my main guitar. It's the most comfortable guitar I've ever played. I have the piezo, so there are lots of tonal options, but none that sound like an LP. The JP has its own sound, and I can't play any other guitar for too long before I have to go back to the JP.

So, try both and get the one that has the sound you're looking for.

 

[Tolerate]

Try one and play it standing for 40 minutes - see how you feel about them then.

I'm still using my Les Paul until my Luke arrives. I always practice stood up, you should try having a LP slung around you for 7 hours. I have to go to an osteopath to get my back re-aligned about 2-3 times a year.

 

[Jimi D]

You know, imho, this is really a "non-sense" question; it's like asking if I should buy a Lamborghini Gallardo or Bentley Continental? The only possible answer is, what do you want? I personally traded my last Les Paul for an Axis, and I've never regretted that move, but I've a friend who is a Les Paul player and has been all his life, and nothing on God's green earth could seperate him from his 70s LP Custom (which he's owned since new) - personally I think the thing's a boat anchor, but he can eek funk out of it, so what do I know...

Ultimately, I gotta agree with BP; if you want a Les Paul, you're not going to find one here... If you're looking for something else, EBMM has some absolutely wonderful guitars in their lineup, but none of them is a 11 lb., set-neck, arch-top, stop-tail with 50 years of Rock'n'Roll history behind it...

my 2¢

 

[hour9]

As many have said an LP and a JP are night and day different.

IMHO You need to go to some music stores and play both guitars to see what you like better.

I strongly disagree with those who have said that a Les Paul is limited in what it can do. I own a Les Paul Standard and a EBMM Axis SS HH. These are both versatile guitars and I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I love both guitars but they are extremely different from each other.

If you do go with a Les Paul I will say that the pickups make a big difference. You need to go with a higher end pickup. I have WCR Fillmores in mine and they are extremely articulate, they compliment the Les Paul very well.

 

[kbaim]

I just received my Stealth today.......

I don't even know who you are anymore.

 

[Adwex]

& it stays in tune !!!!!!!!!!!!!
the headstock design on a les paul is very prone to strings sticking in the nut slots.

Very true, this is a common complaint. It's the crappy corian (plastic) material that's the problem, combined with the angled headstock. Alot of guys have the factory nut replaced with bone to eliminate that problem, but I put a little lube (nut sauce w/graphite) in the slots and my guitar never goes out of tune.

You gotta put some nut sauce on your G-string so it doesn't get stuck in your slot.

Many Les Paul players/owners modify and upgrade their guitars, and complain about Gibson while they're doing it. Think of it like this...you have a $50,000 Corvette, with a beautiful laquer paint job, 400 HP, and it corners like it's on rails, but the factory starter sometimes doesn't work, the windshield wipers suck, it gets stuck in 1/2 inch of snow, and it's a pain in the neck to get in and out of....what do you do? Get rid of it? N0, it's a Vette! You replace the starter with a better aftermarket model, get better wiper blades, deal with the ergonomics, and keep it in the garage when it snows. The benefit is getting pinned back in the seat when you step on the gas and drive one of the most awesome performance cars ever built with a long, glorious history. Mustang GT's are great, I had one, but a Vette is a Vette.

The best solution is to get a Les Paul AND an EBMM.

 

[peat]

seriously, the best choice is the jp

 

[hour9]

Very true, this is a common complaint. It's the crappy corian (plastic) material that's the problem, combined with the angled headstock. Alot of guys have the factory nut replaced with bone to eliminate that problem, but I put a little lube (nut sauce w/graphite) in the slots and my guitar never goes out of tune.

You gotta put some nut sauce on your G-string so it doesn't get stuck in your slot.

Many Les Paul players/owners modify and upgrade their guitars, and complain about Gibson while they're doing it. Think of it like this...you have a $50,000 Corvette, with a beautiful laquer paint job, 400 HP, and it corners like it's on rails, but the factory starter sometimes doesn't work, the windshield wipers suck, it gets stuck in 1/2 inch of snow, and it's a pain in the neck to get in and out of....what do you do? Get rid of it? N0, it's a Vette! You replace the starter with a better aftermarket model, get better wiper blades, deal with the ergonomics, and keep it in the garage when it snows. The benefit is getting pinned back in the seat when you step on the gas and drive one of the most awesome performance cars ever built with a long, glorious history. Mustang GT's are great, I had one, but a Vette is a Vette.

The best solution is to get a Les Paul AND an EBMM.

I have an USA Gibson Les Paul Standard with Grovers and a el cheapo Epiphone Les Paul with stock tuners. Neither of them go out of tune on me and I play them hard. Do they stay in tune as well as my Axis, no but it's not really an issue enough to complain about.

 

[NorM]

Hell Yeah!!Just had to get that out of the way.

Knuckleheads

A Les Paul is a Les Paul. Lets pay respects to a legendary tool in Rock.

If there is something missing in the LP there is a good chance amongst the many models
we offer might float your boat, but a Les Paul is a really great guitar.

Who called my name?

Listening to Dudley and Luke talk at the Bash they both agreede that there are a lot of really great guitars out there. Luke went on to add that he really loved the guitar that Dudley built for him.

A les pual is as common in guitar history as hearing Luke play on the radio. Those things are timeless. Like Levi's jeans, quality never goes out of style.

Dargin!! At the Christmas Biff bash you commented that you really liked the mahogany backed 20 anniv SiLO prototype and that the tone provided by that model was quite to your likeing. That stuck with me. Then I read somewhere that the 20 anniv SiLO has a block of mahogany stuck in it. That really made me happy. I like to think that you at least had a little something to do with that.
Given the demo that BP gave on the EVH evolution of tone woods at the open house I bet the Alder Mahogany Maple combination will be ....... (I can't find the right word, but it is a good word) I so want to make this my signature guitar.I'm so glad that BP Dudley and EBMM designed that guitar and not me. All I did was sit back and enjoy the ride.

Pic request that Foggy can't fill:
The back of the 20th anniv SiLO showing the different woods.

 

[Random Hero]

I traded an Ebony 2002 Gibson LP Standard for a White Sparkle JP6, last May. It gave me the appetite for JPs and I own now a fully loaded Graphite Pearl JP6.

Would never go back to the Gibson and haven't missed it one little bit.