• Ernie Ball
  • MusicMan
  • Sterling by MusicMan

Big Poppa

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2005
Messages
18,598
Location
Coachella & SLO, California
bovinehost said:
Believe me, Tim, I've both thought about and talked about this particular idea, both here and on the phone with Steve and Sterling and John Worthington and Ray and a troop of Boy Scouts from Vancleave, Mississippi.

If, for reasons good or bad, a major force in the market such as Guitar Center decides green basses will not sell, then they don't order them and Musicman (and other manufacturers) won't build them. That much, I think, is true.

I have to think, however, given how easy it is these days to track market trends and sales numbers and inventory, that they're not just making this up to annoy me. Steve and I are small beans compared to Musicians Fiend, for instance, but even I can give you a damned good idea what we're selling and what we're not.

(Keep in mind that we're not 'average' retailers and our customer base is far from representative.)

I don't think Guitar Center is making wild-ass guesses at this point. If they are, then they need to hire me right quick like. I'm good at wild-ass guesses.

If someone from GC wants to weigh in and tell me that they are, in fact, making wild-ass guesses, I'll shut up, but I bet they're actually tracking the numbers.

Don't get me wrong - as a consumer, I'm 100 percent with you guys who want the green basses and the sparkles. I love those things. In fact, I think Sterling (deep in his heart) loves those kinds of things, too.

But if I were a brick and mortar guy, I'd look at what the vast majority of people want, over time, and I'd stock those things.

I really think that's what we're seeing. As always, I am willing to learn and change my mind if I'm way off.

Jack

Jackie and dude
I love you guys both as much as men can love each other...ok not that way totally but how the hell did this thread go from abe vigoda to one of criticizing GC and putting the onus on them and why do we blame anyone when certain colors sell better than others? If GC decides that green basses dont sell they are still only 20% of our biz intentionally...why arent we blaming the other 70% of our customers for not selling green instruments? Because ultimately the market decides......people vote with their dollars. dont over complicate...just realize that car dealers have 20 colors on the floor so they can sell the black ones or white ones... STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!
 

Steve Dude Barr

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 3, 2005
Messages
5,173
Last time I checked BP 20% + 70% only added up to 90%. ;)

Back to Dargin's bass....I wouldn't buy one in that shade of green for inventory even if I liked it personally (which I don't). I did want that Envy Green that Pete sold Wasabi last week though. Now that's a green I could live with!!

dudewheresmyrascal.jpg
 
Last edited:

bovinehost

Administrator
Joined
Jan 16, 2003
Messages
18,200
Location
Dall-Ass, TX
Big Poppa said:
I love you guys both as much as men can love each other...ok not that way totally but how the hell did this thread go from abe vigoda to one of criticizing GC and putting the onus on them and why do we blame anyone when certain colors sell better than others? If GC decides that green basses dont sell they are still only 20% of our biz intentionally...why arent we blaming the other 70% of our customers for not selling green instruments? Because ultimately the market decides......people vote with their dollars. dont over complicate...just realize that car dealers have 20 colors on the floor so they can sell the black ones or white ones... STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!

First, I love you, too, and I've been waiting for this moment. Wait, what do you mean exactly by "not that way"? You hurt me so.

I personally blame customers for everything. Wait, do you think they're reading this? They're so sneaky, those customers.

Thanks for the phone call. Before I forget, this so-called "Sterling" bass I bought?

Very cool.

Now let's get back to the Eddie Van Halen controversy, eh?

Jack
 

tkarter

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 22, 2004
Messages
5,921
Location
Kansas
All I have to offer is an I and I like Dargin's bongo. I want it.

ii is a minor

tk
 

roballanson

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 17, 2005
Messages
1,437
Location
Norwich, Norfolk, UK
Big Poppa said:
I was glancing at Dargin's avatar Martini Green Bongo with the Black pickguard and said to myself, "That bass is really ugly" Jackie made a big deal of it but really folks I know that Dargie has a secret stash that he doesnt think I know about that make this bass really look homely and unbecoming. Kind of like a librarian with too much botox.

What do you guys really think? After the novelty of owning it how long would it take for you to put it on ebay?

THis bass would keep me awake at night barking

Well to be honest BP is you send a green bass anywhere it has to be to the land of rolling green hills and fields......it will blend in and disappear thus giving you sleep time again. I will even send you my address and shipping costs just so you can sleep - besides I will need something to do besides drinking malt whisky when my new daughter arrives and keeps me awake at night.

There you go BP if you want shot I will swap you a bottle of very very good malt whisky........and thats golden brown....

Green is a good colour....
 
Last edited:

strummer

Enormous Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2005
Messages
4,518
Location
Safe European Home, Stockholm, Sweden
Big Poppa said:
I was glancing at Dargin's avatar Martini Green Bongo with the Black pickguard and said to myself, "That bass is really ugly" Jackie made a big deal of it but really folks I know that Dargie has a secret stash that he doesnt think I know about that make this bass really look homely and unbecoming. Kind of like a librarian with too much botox.

What do you guys really think? After the novelty of owning it how long would it take for you to put it on ebay?

THis bass would keep me awake at night barking

This thread goes all over the place, so sorry for (temporarily) getting it on topic:D

If I had a 5-string version of Dargies bass, I wouldn't sell it for the world.

I really, really, really love green basses, and the greener the better. So, my fav is Kermit (totally unobtainable), second is the Dargin/Jack green (also unobtainable) and third is Envy Green, and I have one of those.

I don't know if my love for green basses has anything to do with the rarity, but somehow I think so. In fact, that is what made me get a Desert Gold Bongo. I thought: "That colour will never catch on, so I'll have it." I was wrong, so thank god for Envy Green.

Just look at it (yes again) and tell me it doesn't look good...
Colour_Envy_green.jpg
 

Big Poppa

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2005
Messages
18,598
Location
Coachella & SLO, California
Steve Dude Barr said:
Last time I checked BP 20% + 70% only added up to 90%. ;)

Back to Dargin's bass....I wouldn't buy one in that shade of green for inventory even if I liked it personally (which I don't). I did want that Envy Green that Pete sold Wasabi last week though. Now that's a green I could live with!!

dudewheresmyrascal.jpg

Steve you forgot your and jacks 10% cut!
 

tadawson

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 28, 2005
Messages
519
Location
Houghton, MI
Big Poppa said:
Jackie and dude
I love you guys both as much as men can love each other...ok not that way totally but how the hell did this thread go from abe vigoda to one of criticizing GC and putting the onus on them and why do we blame anyone when certain colors sell better than others? If GC decides that green basses dont sell they are still only 20% of our biz intentionally...why arent we blaming the other 70% of our customers for not selling green instruments? Because ultimately the market decides......people vote with their dollars. dont over complicate...just realize that car dealers have 20 colors on the floor so they can sell the black ones or white ones... STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!

Sorry, BP - I deleted my post after I read your later comments in the thread and realized that my comment had already been covered, and was redundant, but apparently Jack had latched onto it first . . . . .

- Tim
 

Beth

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 16, 2002
Messages
2,910
Location
Indio
Dargin said:
....and you are making fun of my personal taste eh? The do is "interesting"........ I will grab a piece at lunch then change it.


oooo - didn't think you'd do it, Darg! :D
 
Top Bottom