Loxx Strap Locks

[BIGEJ2]

Anyone know if LOXX Home - LOXX USA fit EBMM basses without modifying the screw holes? I have one strap that I really like and am looking for something that will fit both Fender and EBMM.

 

[Tollywood]

BEWARE - the LOXX strap locks are poorly made: the screw heads easily strip. The screws themselves are pretty large in diameter. I was very unhappy with the product. I returned mine after regretting that I'd put them on one of my guitars - it was a p.wolf and I had to put a wood slug into the hole afterward. Not good. It's probably too big of a screw for the ebmm holes, too.

 

[mynan]

Ernie Ball Super Locks...
Ernie Ball | Super Locks

 

[BIGEJ2]

Thanks guys. I'm not opposed to the EBMM super locks but wanted something that would work with my fenders too. I believe the screw holes are larger on the EBMM's correct?

 

[jlepre]

The screw holes are the same as far as I remember.

 

[Yango]

Schaller makes a fantastic product, I have them on all my basses. They come with two sets of screws, different lengths—and the longer fits EBMM products perfectly. Check out this link, there's a "technical drawing" tab which gives you all pertinent dimensions. These things a reliable too, I've been using them for decades, and I've NEVER had one fail.

Security Locks | Schaller-Electronic

 

[kamakazee]

+1 on the Schaller. I don't buy a bass or guitar without getting a set. Worked perfectly with the EBMM screw.

 

[tkarter]

I use Schaller but have had to use matchsticks to tighten them up in my bongo. I would love to try the EB strap locks. But I have 27 pairs of Schallers so...

I would like to see a picture of those you speak of. LOL Never heard of them.

tk

 

[Soulkeeper]

I don't like the Schallers because the nut is on the wrong side of the strap, and because of its assymetric locking mechanism. I personally think that Dunlop got it exactly right with their Straploks, but the EBMM Super Locks are of equally great quality (or even better). I only prefer the Dunlops over EBMMs because they appeal more to me aesthetically.

 

[five7]

One push of the button accidentally unlocks the dunlops and drops your bass, for this reason I will never use them again. I am like t karter, I own so many shallers it is unfeasable to switch. If the screws loosen up I use toothpicks and glue. In the old days we would use a big fender washer and attach the strap and leave it on there, worked good as long as it would fit in the case.

 

[tbonesullivan]

I admit I have not really been around for that long, but I have not heard of people accidentally releasing their dunlop straplocks, resulting in a dropped guitar. The button is recessed and not easy to 'accidentally' engage. I have Dunlop, Schaller, and EB strap locks, and they all are good, IMHO. The EB ones are a bit bulky but have a good design, and since you need to press both side buttons at the same time, accidental release is pretty much impossible. They also have the lock on the outside, like the dunlops, so if the nut holding the washer loosens, you won't lose your guitar. They are, IMHO, a much better product than the locks shown here. Of my "harem" I have 5 guitars with schaller locks, 3 basses with EB locks, 3 basses with Dunlop locks, and 9 guitars with dunlop locks.

 

[KevinM]

I like the Dunlops for their low profile but I'm not sure about their strength with heavier basses. The EB locks, on the other hand, seem much stronger and trustworthy over the long run.

 

[tbonesullivan]

I like the Dunlops for their low profile but I'm not sure about their strength with heavier basses. The EB locks, on the other hand, seem much stronger and trustworthy over the long run.

I have noted that the EB locks do have a larger form factor, but they also seem to have looser tolerances in the "lock" portion, or just more play when they are attached.

I don't like the design of the "loxx" locking mechanism. It just doesn't seem as sturdy as the ball-bearing in groove that the dunlop and EB locks use. The Schaller locks are much more dependent on the housing around the lock, and the "lock" is there mainly to keep the "U" from falling off.

 

[Kerry]

The LOXX mechanism is exactly the same piece that has been used in the marine and auto industries for ~80+ years. They are constantly tested for quality, and the tests have to be supplied to manufacturers such as Porsche, Rolls Royce, Benteley, and others regularly. LOXX withstands over 220lbs of pull out and shear force. Here is an image of the tests:





With that being said, there is not an industry standard for strap screw sizes, so it's tough for any aftermarket manufacturer to have exactly the right sized screws to fit every guitar//bass. For what it's worth, I have installed LOXX into my EB Petrucci guitar and I didn't have to modify the holes. If your guitar has very narrow screws, LOXX will likely be too wide, but if they're average, LOXX will probably fit.

 

[backagain1]

I've used the Ernie Ball strap locks on my SR5 for a year or more and I love them. I didn't have to drill to install them... the screw that came along with them fit right in.

 

[jlepre]

Ok enough of the LOXX informercial already

 

[mobass]

One push of the button accidentally unlocks the dunlops and drops your bass, for this reason I will never use them again. I am like t karter, I own so many shallers it is unfeasable to switch. If the screws loosen up I use toothpicks and glue. In the old days we would use a big fender washer and attach the strap and leave it on there, worked good as long as it would fit in the case.

I've used dunlops for years, and don't see how you could accidentally push the button.

 

[corkmusic]

my stingray cam with dunlops and they've been on it since 96 without failing. Can't see how you could accidentaly release them. On a side note, I see a lot of guitarists using the piece of red rubber from Grolsch bottles as straplocks. Wouldn't trust it with my baby though

 

[Tollywood]

The LOXX mechanism is exactly the same piece that has been used in the marine and auto industries for ~80+ years. They are constantly tested for quality, and the tests have to be supplied to manufacturers such as Porsche, Rolls Royce, Benteley, and others regularly. LOXX withstands over 220lbs of pull out and shear force. Here is an image of the tests:

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With that being said, there is not an industry standard for strap screw sizes, so it's tough for any aftermarket manufacturer to have exactly the right sized screws to fit every guitar//bass. For what it's worth, I have installed LOXX into my EB Petrucci guitar and I didn't have to modify the holes. If your guitar has very narrow screws, LOXX will likely be too wide, but if they're average, LOXX will probably fit.

hmmmm...interesting post.

Good luck winning Loxx Employee of the Month.

 

[tkarter]

FWIW I have always wanted to try the EB strap locks. Just didn't make sense to purchase them because of the fact I have never seen how they operate nor really needed something better than the strap locks I currently have.

Seeing as how I am happy with my EB basses I may just order me a couple pair of EB strap locks so I can be All EB except for the strings. I can't break away from the acme flats. Too old a dog for that I reckon.

tk