Off Topic Multi Pedals

[Jamie M]

Hi Chaps

I know this is not an EBMM subject but i was wobdering if any of you on here have or have tried either the Line 6 HD multi pedals or the Boss GT10. I am looking at getting one or the other and i would appreciate some comments if any of you have any experience with these.

Thanks

 

[ScoobySteve]

I have demo'd and tried many of the POD Ground series (X series included) and BOSS GT series for a multi effects solution to my rig. For the price, Boss and Line 6 make decent gear but, in my personal, totally honest opinion..... thank goodness for return policies.

I was just not satisfied. It sounded too processed, and too digitized. Not organic at all. I like FX to be color added to the canvas, not the FX to BE the canvas, if that makes any sense.

I parted out my entire rig for an 11 Rack, due to moving over seas, but I dished the extra money for a TC Electronics Nova System. That or the G System wont let you down. Expensive, but its QUALITY.

My .02 Good luck

 

[fbecir]

Hello

What do you want to do with it ? Do you want to use it for recording on a computer ?
I see in your signature that you have a BlackStar HT40. Do you use the dirty channel of your amp for distortion or do you want to use the modelisation of the Boss or Line6 (and thus you use just the clean channel of your amp) ?
Personally, I bought several multi-effects (the first was an ART SGE MACH II twenty years ago !), the last one was a Digitech RP355. At the end I always go back to my pedals.

 

[Jamie M]

Thanks for your comments chaps. I have had a few problems with single pedals lately (nearly blew my amp up) so i thought i would play it safe and get one multi pedal plus i always want more effects and with single pedals that gets a bit expensive.

Thanks again for your help

 

[mikeller]

I had a GT10 briefly - the problem is from my perspective is that they it had tons of good sounds, but I had trouble getting one great sound out it. That being said, I also believe it is very possible - I did not spend the time with it that it deserved. I am too old to change my way of thinking I guess.

I have been interested in a Line6 M9 or M13 however, I think that it might be more along my lines of thinking....

Good luck

 

[threeminutesboy]

I am at the moment rethinking completely my live rig. Exit Boss GT3, welcome back Mesa Boogie V-Twin and Eventide time factor. I will add a polytune tuner, an overdrive (not decided yet which one) an EB Volume pedal and A/B pedal to switch from Bass to GTR and that's it

 

[joe web]

tested the GT-10 for a two weeks. i run it with the 4-cable-method with my amp. which means, i put some GT-10 fx in front of my amp, used my amp for the regular clean and crunch and lead sounds and some GT-10 fx (modulation and delay) in the fx-loop of my amp.
it was fine for the price and the easy and quick setup, but the delays sounded not warm enough for me, the rest was o.k.
at the end i decided to go ahead with my regular setup (5-pedals in front with a looper, two multi-fx units parallel in the loop)
the t.c. delays sound much warmer and more musically as the GT-10 delays.
but for that price, you get a good multi-fx system.
don´t ask me about the amp-simulations in the GT-10 - never tried it - i prefer real amps.

 

[Spudmurphy]

I think Line 6 provide fantastic value. Although I haven't used the model you are after I have used the XT with a shortboard out front. I use it either in the effects loop of my amp or just plugged into the front - effectively using the tube amp as a power amp.

I also have pedals such as Vibe, compressor, OD, wah, tuner and I alternate between the XT and the pedals.

If you want value for money the Line 6 gear will perform really well.
If you use the analogy of a hi fi buff who is striving for perfection then the XT would not meet your aspiration of perfection and a more expensive rig would be required.

Just as an aside I watched a great band last night (Vocalist from Lone Star in the 70's and the bass player from Budgie who was using a MM bass) The guitarist had a great sound - and I mean great.
I played a few numbers during the breakand eyeballed his pedal board which comprised mostly of old Line 6 gear. If it works for you then go for it and use the money saved on other gear. There's a lot of good second hand hand Line 6 gear out there and as I say - gives great value for money.

 

[orion_21]

Really sounds like the line 6 m13 is more your style. With the Boss and Pods your really paying for amp modeling, which it seems you dont need. Even the M9 may be a solution.

 

[jadaxis]

Obviously, trying to compare a modeling system (Line 6, Boss, or other) to a real amp is like comparing apples and oranges. I have owned a Boss GT3 and currently own a Line 6 XTlive (haven't played either of the new boards, Line6 or Boss). In my experience, I hated the sound of the Boss GT pedal. It never sounded even close to authentic to me. It always sounded digital (always had a digitized fuzz sound...if you know what I mean). At the time I had a Mesa Rect-o-verb and the Boss never was played. I didn't even like the transparent effects it had. With the Mesa, I used a T.C. Electronics G-major for delays, reverbs, chorus', etc. I love that piece of equipment!....still have and use two of them....
Enter the Line6 XTlive: until I heard the Pod XT live, I hated modeling amps. This one, however seemed fairly authentic...for it's intended use. Using it with my Mesa still sounded bad. Running it direct into the soundboard sounds pretty good. Obviously, it has to be setup and eq'd correctly. I don't use the delay from the Line6 (not great in my opinion), I use the G-major for the transparent effects. That being said, I haven't used a live amp on stage in 5 years. (I play mainly in churches, so it's a benefit not to have amp stage volume)
Is the pedal as good as the real thing? no. Is it passable for many situations? yes.
My short answer, from my experience if the situation calls for it, I'd go Line6 over Boss every time.

 

[Gio_Force_One]

I had a GT10 briefly - the problem is from my perspective is that they it had tons of good sounds, but I had trouble getting one great sound out it. That being said, I also believe it is very possible - I did not spend the time with it that it deserved. I am too old to change my way of thinking I guess.

I have been interested in a Line6 M9 or M13 however, I think that it might be more along my lines of thinking....

Good luck

mike dont get the line 6 m13 i bought it it really didnt sound good at all very processed i thought and the kid at GC that recommended it said it was the best thing ever was there when i brought mine back and said good thing mine just broke after 6 months apparently they break very easy. he said he took care of it and one day he turned it on and it didnt come on.

 

[Gio_Force_One]

I thought the best sounding one i every had was the vox tonelab only reason i sold it was cause i just didnt need all the stuff on it and was to lazy to really figure everything it offered on it. but it really did sound good.
the me 50 by boss wasnt to bad either very simple to use and sounded pretty good

 

[mikeller]

mike dont get the line 6 m13 i bought it it really didnt sound good at all very processed i thought and the kid at GC that recommended it said it was the best thing ever was there when i brought mine back and said good thing mine just broke after 6 months apparently they break very easy. he said he took care of it and one day he turned it on and it didnt come on.

Thank you, appreciate that. I really honestly have everything I need, its just GAS !!!!

 

[fbecir]

i always want more effects and with single pedals that gets a bit expensive.

That's what I like with pedals ! If you feel depressed you just buy a new one, and you are happy ! (it's cheaper than a psychoanalyst but a bit more expensive than a beer in the pub).
The big difference between pedals and multi-effects is that multi-effects lost very quickly their value.
My old Ibanez OD9 from 1982 can be sold 500 $ on Evil Bay.
Who wants to buy my ART SGE Mach 2 ??? You don't know what you are missing ! A wonderful 16 bits processor ... (on the other hand, Albert Lee still uses a Korg A3 ... that runs also with a 16 bits processor). If you buy my ART, I will give you a wonderful PC with a powerful Pentium III processor (and 128 MB of RAM). Still not interested ???

 

[dhalif]

i recorded a demo of my bfr with my pod x3 live patch the other will put it up here for u to to hear..

 

[dhalif]

I brought home a GT-8, HD400 and HD500 but it couldnt do what the X3s were doing for me.
BTW Just to let u know that the M13 or M9 or M5 , is not processed with an AMP SIM, so if you would just go direct it would sound nasty.

Cheers.

 

[wolfbone07]

TC Electronic Nova System with G-Switch or expression pedal. Very well built. Great sounds. Can be run in the loop (though you lose the distortion effects when you do this).

 

[Gio_Force_One]

has anyone here tried any of the way huge pedals yet , I just got a way huge pork loin and its such a clear and articulate pedal.
I was really surprised on how good it sounds , now i want to try some of the other ones.

 

[luv]

I thought the best sounding one i every had was the vox tonelab only reason i sold it was cause i just didnt need all the stuff on it and was to lazy to really figure everything it offered on it. but it really did sound good.

I have the Vox Tonelab EX...which is a newer version. I agree that it has some good sounds in it (some poor ones too). I think the key to any of the multi pedals is to spend A LOT of time with them and figure out exactly how they work. It's really easy to just listen to the presets and say that it sounds like rubbish. Spend some time to taylor the pedal to your amp and you will have better results. FWIW, I ran my tonelab thru a Blackheart Handsome Devil with disappointing results. Then ran it into a Tech21 PowerEngine 60 with much better results.

 

[Gio_Force_One]

I have the Vox Tonelab EX...which is a newer version. I agree that it has some good sounds in it (some poor ones too). I think the key to any of the multi pedals is to spend A LOT of time with them and figure out exactly how they work. It's really easy to just listen to the presets and say that it sounds like rubbish. Spend some time to taylor the pedal to your amp and you will have better results. FWIW, I ran my tonelab thru a Blackheart Handsome Devil with disappointing results. Then ran it into a Tech21 PowerEngine 60 with much better results.

I had the original big blue tone lab , thats the one i always go by , never really played the other ones