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The first batch that came into manny’s when I bought mine in 93/4 were all dead light. Mines under 7. 8lbs+ is plainly heavy. There are people, especially ebmm owners who don’t mind it, so I suggest you sell it and look for a lighter one. I think the lighter ones sound better anyway. My two cents.
 

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The first batch that came into manny’s when I bought mine in 93/4 were all dead light. Mines under 7. 8lbs+ is plainly heavy. There are people, especially ebmm owners who don’t mind it, so I suggest you sell it and look for a lighter one. I think the lighter ones sound better anyway. My two cents.

Thanks for the input. I may end up doing just that. It’s kind of irritating that EBMM advertises this as a lightweight guitar and then get one so heavy. To me, as far as feel and expectations go, that’s not much different than advertising a 10” radius only to get one that has 7.25.
 

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That's not really a fair comparison. The weight range is within spec- it's just on the heavier side of that.

Guitars are made out of wood. Some end up being heavier than others. Really, if you don't like it, sell it or trade it for one that's more to your liking. Or take it up with customer service and discuss with them.

Personally, I have guitars on the heavier side and I can't say it's ever bothered me.
 

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That's not really a fair comparison. The weight range is within spec- it's just on the heavier side of that.

Guitars are made out of wood. Some end up being heavier than others. Really, if you don't like it, sell it or trade it for one that's more to your liking. Or take it up with customer service and discuss with them.

Personally, I have guitars on the heavier side and I can't say it's ever bothered me.

I'm aware that guitars are made of wood and that some are heavier than others (please don't be insulting). I think it is a fair comparison because just like EBMM can choose to put a different radius on a fretboard, they can choose to use a lighter piece of wood for the body. Especially when they advertise the guitar as lightweight but do not also advertise what weight range is considered within spec. I don't think most guitar players would consider 8.4lbs lightweight. I get it that a heavier guitar doesn't bother you and a lot of other players but a lighter guitar is a preference, much like a fretboard radius. Some preferences are harder to sell or trade. I suspect were I to advertise this guitar with its weight, it'd be harder to sell than otherwise.

I reached out to EBMM about this and their response was much like yours, telling me the weight was in spec. That doesn't make me think they are interested in helping out.
 

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Clyde,

I’m sure yours is a great guitar and I hope you find something better suited for you if need to. I sold a Strat that weighed in incredibly heavy, as in 10-11 pounds. It was a great guitar, but it was too much for my body. (This was long before the Cutlass was released).

Another possibility is maybe keep it for recording only? I have an older guitar that I use every so often on recordings, but would never use it live because it just isn’t my style.

Either way, best of luck and keep on rockin’. We are a bunch of knuckleheads around here and joke around with each other. We are always glad to see new members on the forums. :)
 
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8.4 lbs is not heavy for me. It is just 3.8 kg.

For me under 4 kg, it is light.
But weight is just one part of the problem. If the guitar is well-balanced, it is not a problem.
I have an Ibanez semi, very light but neck heavy. I feel that my Morse (4 kg) is more comfortable to play because it is perfectly balanced.
 

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I’d sell it, and hunt for a lighter one. Personally I think an ash bodied guitar at 8.4 should not be considered within spec. Me and EBMM differ considerably here. I think in this price bracket, it’s not really good enough. Just my opinion. So yeah, I’d sell it and shop for a lighter one.
 
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I bought it from a small shop. It was their only one and they don't do refunds.
I completely understand you not liking heavy guitars. Your AL seems heavy.
But - why does your shop not do refunds? Did you try it before buying or did you buy online?
 

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I completely understand you not liking heavy guitars. Your AL seems heavy.
But - why does your shop not do refunds? Did you try it before buying or did you buy online?

I bought it over the phone but from an out of state store. Invoice said no refunds. Store credit only. EBMM is one brand that I'm pretty confident about buying site unseen. Looking at the website of the store now, I see that since I bought it "online", I had 48 hours to evaluate and return. But when I got the guitar I had COVID and ironically enough one of the symptoms I had at the time was back pain. :p

Now that I've started playing it some, I noticed it has intonation issues. The E and D saddles won't go back far enough to properly intonate. I went to change strings hoping that would solve the problem and found the string holes in the trem cover didn't line up. Turns out the trem cover is for a left handed guitar. No big deal. EBMM has been very helpful and is sending me a new trem cover and some shorter saddle springs.
 

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Clyde,

I’m sure yours is a great guitar and I hope you find something better suited for you if need to. I sold a Strat that weighed in incredibly heavy, as in 10-11 pounds. It was a great guitar, but it was too much for my body. (This was long before the Cutlass was released).

Another possibility is maybe keep it for recording only? I have an older guitar that I use every so often on recordings, but would never use it live because it just isn’t my style.

Either way, best of luck and keep on rockin’. We are a bunch of knuckleheads around here and joke around with each other. We are always glad to see new members on the forums. :)

All good. I appreciate it. I get it that people don't want to hear complaining. I just have to agree with TripHazard that 8.4lbs shouldn't be considered in spec for an ash body guitar advertised as lightweight in this price range. If anything, I think people should know the weight of these guitars can vary greatly. If they care.
 

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This thread has really made me want to weigh more of my guitars.

My Steve Morse weighs 8.7lbs, while my G&L Legacy weighs 8.1 lbs without the arm.
 
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