Off Topic New cab

[0DDJ0B]

Just got a GK Neo 412. Got a killer deal on it that I couldn't pass up. I'm using my LMIII for now but was wondering if I should get something with more power for such a large cab. Was thinking of a LM800 or an SD800.

 

[njhammer]

I recently acquired a GK Fusion 550 that I'm using with a Neo 212. Very happy.

 

[Basspro]

I think it's better to have an amp with more power on tap, to not under power your cab.It also depends how you set-up your rig. My Aggie 412 which is rated at 1200 (prob peak power) i run into a GK1001 700 watt head, I don't even hit 1 on volume sense we go direct through the PA, its only for stage volume.

 

[0DDJ0B]

I think it's better to have an amp with more power on tap, to not under power your cab.It also depends how you set-up your rig. My Aggie 412 which is rated at 1200 (prob peak power) i run into a GK1001 700 watt head, I don't even hit 1 on volume sense we go direct through the PA, its only for stage volume.

That's what I'm thinking. I rather have more than not enough. Just not sure what to get. This cab is also rated at 1200watts.

 

[Daniel Piper]

Some Good meaty options that I would consider are:

Mesa M6 or 9
Carvin bx1200 or b2000
Fender tb1200

Or the newish 12 band trace elliot ah1200-12

The carvin amps are very good value new.

 

[syciprider]

Just want to say that there is no such thing as "underpowering" a speaker. It's a myth unique to the musician world methinks.

 

[maddog]

underpowering a speaker, i.e. providing less watts than the cab can handle, is bad when you are trying get the overall volume louder than the amp can go. the amp clips, sending nasty distortion crap down the line and into the cab. i've never melted woofer voice coils doing this but definitely killed a bunch of tweeters.

it is better to have too much power and set levels so you won't blow stuff up.

 

[syciprider]

underpowering a speaker, i.e. providing less watts than the cab can handle, is bad when you are trying get the overall volume louder than the amp can go. the amp clips, sending nasty distortion crap down the line and into the cab. i've never melted woofer voice coils doing this but definitely killed a bunch of tweeters.

it is better to have too much power and set levels so you won't blow stuff up.

That is not underpowering a cab. That's driving an amp past what it is designed to do (into distortion). You can do that regardless of the amp's or cabs ratings and is a different issue.
Underpowering as the myth goes is having a cab that can handle much more than the amp can deliver. Like a 500 watt cab mated to a 200 watt amp. With this setup, normal usage will not harm the cab in any way.

 

[pete1000]

I think the point maddog may be alluring to is that big wattage cabs tend to have lower sensitivity than a lower rated cab. (eg dB @ 1 W / 1 M ) Drivers built to handle higher wattage are more heavily constructed, and the extra momentum required to get them moving costs amp power. The result is often driving the output of the amp harder, lowering headroom, running into clipping, which increases the duty cycle on-time in the voice coil, thus creating more heat, the pre-cursor to the smoke that creates the silence! Cabinet sensitivity should be considered as, or more important for consideration, as impedence and rated wattage. Pete.

 

[syciprider]

And that risk of underpowering (in the context that you and maddog used it) is the same as putting too much power into the speakers which is also easy to do with a powerful amp.

I have 15 year old 500 watt home speakers driven by a 300 watt amp and watch my movies real loud. I never owned a receiver or a power amp bigger than 300 watts. With reasonable care, my cabs will easily last another 15 years. It's okay to have "mismatched" amps and cabs as long as you don't exceed performance parameters of any device in the chain.

 

[five7]

What does all this have to do with Musicman?

 

[jlepre]

I believe the OP posted this as OFF TOPIC as he is a registered EBMM user.

 

[Steamthief]

What does all this have to do with Musicman?

Maximizing the sound potential of an EBMM bass?

 

[oddjob]

2001RB very nice with 4x12 Neos

 

[Basspro]

Go down or call your local GC or big music store, see if they have the Neo cabs in stock, and try some various heads to see what will suit your needs.

 

[0DDJ0B]

Go down or call your local GC or big music store, see if they have the Neo cabs in stock, and try some various heads to see what will suit your needs.

You would think that in an are like Dallas TX there would be a better selection of bass gear but the local music shops don't have much. That's why I was asking here. The closes store that I know of is about three hours away in Austin TX. Might just give me an excuse for a weekend getaway.

 

[Basspro]

I've used Ampeg pro, Mesa and now a GK1001RB with my GS412 cab and all have their own flavor thru this cab, but i seem to prefer my GK with this cab. Its just what works for each individual. Good luck I'm sure you'll find that sound that suits you.

 

[Bass4Faultline]

I personally wish musicman would reissue their 2x12 cabs!

 

[0DDJ0B]

Looks like I might be getting a GK1001RB.

 

[0DDJ0B]

The GK1001RB deal fell through. Still in the market for a head for my 412.