Off topic..but I just had to say WTF

[shaver]

i see that its nots pointed at me now, and this doesnt have to be deleated...

i'm sorry that i over reacted and what not, the topic its self just offends me greatly..i didnt need to get all hufy and pufy about it, i just dont like it in general when people talk about beating or hiting their kids, its just something i dont like, but if its what you grew up with and if its your parenting, then so be it, i have no right to tell you other wise

and for the spelling, i'm just no good at that in general

i'll be quiet now (hope i spelled that right)

 

[midopa]

I have rated this thread five stars. Because, you know, it is excellent.

 

[skabassist13]

i agree with the whole some kids need a good ass kicking concept. im 16, so i know first hand how it goes. some kids you see and think "what the hell is he doing?" this is just tottaly messed up. but i think im doing ok. if i step out of line WHACK!. no ifs, ands, or buts. thats how it works in my house. my parents dont take any **** from any of us (there are 4). they taught me repect to elders and adults. for example im a lifegaurd, its my responsiblility to make sure that the pool are i work at is safe, but when an adult does something which is conisdered wrong at the pool i have a hard time letting them know. im glad my parents raise me the way the are though. i feel i am a better person than most people my age. i mean, becuase of my parents i am one of the kids that havent done anything illegal. more than 75%(im guessing) of my class has done something illegal. maybe its because of their parents not doing their job, maybe its not, but im sure that some of the cases are becuase of their parents. i think its just out of hand. kids make threats to the parents. THE KIDS ARE THE ONES DOING THE THREATING! WTF!!!! we all know thats not how its supposed to go. if i threaten my parents its with a smile on my face and in a joking manner. theyve helped me out a little in my life, but for the most part if i want it i have to get it myself. a good example is a musicman. i want one. but theyre not even willing to negotiate a deal. they tell me "when you get the cash in hand you can go get one". normally that kinda pisses me off because i really want one, but after a while i see how theyre thinking and im glad. the only time i get free stuff is for christmas and my birthday. otherwise i have to get it myself. mr. bovine has the same mindset on parenting as mine do, and unless his child is just one of the bad apples(im not saying at all that he is) im sure that he will turn out to be a very hardworking, productive person. i agree with uvapete. kids need to get a whack every now and then. i will admit there is a fine line between abuse and discipline, but as long as that line isnt crossed then its ok. but of course kids know about c.p.s. and will call them if theyre parent touches them at all when the child ****s up. STUPID BRATS.

 

[Bassplyr]

I like the idea of using this thread as a general WTF forum for everyday B.S. experiences. I have a feeling it;ll be one of the longest, if not THE longest, thread on this forum. The complaint lines are open!

 

[midopa]

I stepped in a puddle today. I was like so totally WTF. My shoe got all wet and it was teh nastiness. Please share in my suffering.

 

[bovinehost]

I dunno about having a general WTF thread.

A WTF Forum might be better, because then those who prefer to avoid controversy could simply not visit.

On the other hand, this is a EBMM forum, so maybe in general, those subjects (war, famine, punk rock, discipline, King Crimson concerts, navel piercings, Bush, Kerry, etc) are better left for other places?

 

[dlloyd]

Stream of consciousness edited slightly...

i agree with the whole some kids need a good ass kicking concept.

The metaphorical kick is often more powerful than the physical kick.

WHACK!. no ifs, ands, or buts.

That's a pretty good way to teach kids that hitting is a reasonable response when someone does something you don't like.

 

[bovinehost]

That's a pretty good way to teach kids that hitting is a reasonable response when someone does something you don't like.

This is not about punching a five year old in the head because he accidentally drops his milk, is it?

This is about a whack on the butt when a two year old completely melts down because a video has had the audacity to actually end, or when he's told that no, Daddy can't buy him every single Hot Wheels car at Super Target.

A screaming toddler can be a thing to behold.

I've seen other kids lose their minds in public. In restaurants. In stores. Their parents do little to nothing, and the child is allowed to ruin everyone's experience.

My child isn't allowed to do that. I've had to give up my lunch, cut short my grocery shopping, etc.

Do I take him outside and beat him? Um, no.

Do I try first to talk to him? Yes.

Does he sometimes reach a point where talking means nothing?

Yup.

Smacking him across the rear or on his hand is a last resort, but sometimes it's the only thing that gets through. It isn't about him doing something that I personally don't enjoy - it's about teaching him that certain behaviour will never, ever be tolerated.

 

[dlloyd]

A screaming toddler can be a thing to behold.

I have one too. Yes it can.

When it comes down to it, I take the attitude that it's attention-seeking and the best way to deal with it is to ignore mine... it works superbly for us, but that's really not what I was talking about.

Smacking him across the rear or on his hand is a last resort, but sometimes it's the only thing that gets through. It isn't about him doing something that I personally don't enjoy - it's about teaching him that certain behaviour will never, ever be tolerated.

I was really getting at the "WHACK!. no ifs, ands, or buts" ska mentioned in relation to a 16 year old. And "no ifs" doesn't really sound like a last resort option to me.

 

[bovinehost]

At home, it's so much easier. He begins to go nuclear, and I say, "You may have to do this, but I don't have to witness it."

And off he goes to his room, and I close the door until he decides to be human again.

But ignoring him in public? Very problematic, and I am acutely aware of how disturbing it is for others, especially in a restaurant.

When I was a kid, my father - as bad as he was at being a parent - didn't often whack me. But if I showed my @ss in public, uh oh. And after a little while, I figured it out. Do NOT do that in public.

It is a balancing act. It is difficult to know what's exactly right, what's called for and what they will respond to on any given day. I'd much rather take his Thomas the Tank Engine collection (and it is VAST) than smack him, but sometimes Thomas is at home and we aren't.

Tough job, isn't it?

 

[dlloyd]

I'd much rather take his Thomas the Tank Engine collection (and it is VAST) than smack him, but sometimes Thomas is at home and we aren't.

Not another one

Yes, I'm down there with the vast Thomas the Tank Engine collections. I'll bet you can play the theme tune too...

 

[oddjob]

At home, it's so much easier. He begins to go nuclear, and I say, "You may have to do this, but I don't have to witness it."

And off he goes to his room, and I close the door until he decides to be human again.

But ignoring him in public? Very problematic, and I am acutely aware of how disturbing it is for others, especially in a restaurant.

When I was a kid, my father - as bad as he was at being a parent - didn't often whack me. But if I showed my @ss in public, uh oh. And after a little while, I figured it out. Do NOT do that in public.

It is a balancing act. It is difficult to know what's exactly right, what's called for and what they will respond to on any given day. I'd much rather take his Thomas the Tank Engine collection (and it is VAST) than smack him, but sometimes Thomas is at home and we aren't.

Tough job, isn't it?

If more parents held this view point and carried it through, mine would be a much easier job. They don't call you "Lord" Bongo for nothing

 

[cgworkman]

This is not about punching a five year old in the head because he accidentally drops his milk, is it?

This is about a whack on the butt when a two year old completely melts down because a video has had the audacity to actually end, or when he's told that no, Daddy can't buy him every single Hot Wheels car at Super Target.

A screaming toddler can be a thing to behold.

I've seen other kids lose their minds in public. In restaurants. In stores. Their parents do little to nothing, and the child is allowed to ruin everyone's experience.

My child isn't allowed to do that. I've had to give up my lunch, cut short my grocery shopping, etc.

Do I take him outside and beat him? Um, no.

Do I try first to talk to him? Yes.

Does he sometimes reach a point where talking means nothing?

Yup.

Smacking him across the rear or on his hand is a last resort, but sometimes it's the only thing that gets through. It isn't about him doing something that I personally don't enjoy - it's about teaching him that certain behaviour will never, ever be tolerated.

Bravo!!

My shildren DO NOT act like that in public or elsewhere. Why? They were taught right from the beginning. Not - "Oh you need to behave now were in public..." It's starts young and at home.

I seen a young girl probably 6 or 7 years old sh*t on the floor of a retail store because she was angry about having to be in the store and her mother was patting her on the head telling her it wasn't her fault - that they should have left when the little girl wanted! WTF?!?!?!?

At 7 years old I wouldn't have been patting her head - I would have been beating her @ss! In the proverbial sense...

Some people I don't understand...

 

[midopa]

My shildren don't either.

 

[skabassist13]

when i said "whack. no ifs, ands, or buts." i didnt mean in a completely literal sense. they dont just whack me for the hell of it. i apologize if i made it seem if my parents beat me. they dont. but theyre not afraid to gimme one across the head if i step out of line. i made that post seem like i meant actually beat kids. im sorry. thats not what i was going for. my thought is similar to bovines and uvapetes. i apologize for that post. you may delete it if you wish and ill step away from this thread.

 

[midopa]

Eh... It's kinda senseless to post this inside the thread, but oh well. ... Look what I can do! *leaps into the air*

 

[basspastor]

In all sincerity, I feel for parents and children in these days in which we live.
I think we need to remember where this (not speaking of thread but of subject)
all started.
I don't have any children at home, wait I guess I do, I pastor a church.
If you don't make a habit of praying just every now and then ask God to help and have mercy on those that have problems in this crazy, cruel, hellatious world.

 

[Mantaray]

I think that skabassist is very mature for his age and this is a very encouraging signal nowadays.
I come from a family that thank God we don't have any financial problem. When I was at school, everybody was wearing these really cool Nike Air Max trainers etc etc. 90% of those students came from rather poor homes. My mother bought me and my brother some of the cheapest trainers available at the time. They were plain wearable, no fancy airsoles etc. I was quite pissed at the time, but nowadays I'm really proud for what she did. She told me that I shouldn't make the other kids jealous for what I've got. I should be humble. Proud always but humble.

 

[dlloyd]

when i said "whack. no ifs, ands, or buts." i didnt mean in a completely literal sense. they dont just whack me for the hell of it. i apologize if i made it seem if my parents beat me. they dont. but theyre not afraid to gimme one across the head if i step out of line. i made that post seem like i meant actually beat kids. im sorry. thats not what i was going for. my thought is similar to bovines and uvapetes. i apologize for that post. you may delete it if you wish and ill step away from this thread.

That's cool... sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[Bassplyr]

Look what I can do! *leaps into the air*

Dang Midopa, you got Skillzzzzz!