Dr Stankface
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Norrin Radd said:
So i'm guessing the 700 that my GK puts out is a little over the top?
Andrew
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So i'm guessing the 700 that my GK puts out is a little over the top?
Andrew
I own a Jcm 2000 Marshall, 60w, and I'm very satisfied with it, I've bought 60w version because I wanted to be able drive power-amp more, and it works for me, at gigs I can turn it to 8-9 master volume, have great tone and not over-power everybody else in a band. Marshall is more rock sounding, XXX has more scooped mids and it's more metal amp, think Soulfly... So, if you're for a versatile ,rock amp than it's Marshall, and if you want balls2thewalls bone crusher it's XXX. Try them both, they're nothing alike, soundwise. Only one thing - Marshall is very unreliable these days, tubes (pre-amp) are BS, quality is not like it used to be, so be careful, mine drop dead after 3 monthslarryandrews said:
, but it came all right at the end, they gave me a new one, which has no probs, till now...Katana6506
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Given the choice, I would go with the Marshall, but that's just me.
kneeoh
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Yes, the 6505 is basically a 5150. The 6505+ is the 5150 II. They are both nice amps but the 6505+ has a nicer clean channel. Its not exactly the AC/DC , GNR type of tone cuz of the 6L6 power tubes.
do you think Peavey is a good choice for amps or am i better off going with Marshall also the 6505+ will that give you a more classic rock tone or am i best off with Marshall. I like to try some of the less known brands for guitar things such as Peavey because just like with guitars when i found EBMM. i like finding the less known stuff that really kills the competition
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kneeoh
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I think if you want that classic rock tone, your best bet is the Marshall. The 6505+ has a little more aggressive tone to it. Try everything with your personal axe before you make your decision. You may indeed find the amp of your dreams that's not a Marshall, Mesa, Carvin or whatever. I came across EBMM after trying about 50 other guitars of various makes and models. EBMM owned them all.
kbaim
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I'd check out the "left" side of Pamela Anderson.
rxtech
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larryandrews said:what about a marshall avt150 anyone have anything to say about them i know they only have a tube preamp but i wonder
Hi Larry,
Avt's get slagged, but I can tell you that I myself( and this is my own opinion) think they sound pretty decent. Granted , I've only heard the 20 watt combo which I own and the 50 watt head. Just use your own ears and don't let anyone sway you, except when it comes to opinions on reliability. One more thing, try a Soldano Hot Rod 50 head. Very simple, all tube, clean to scream, and sound nice.
J_Alexander
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nothing wil ever beat the 5150 or the combo. very useful amp and those that say they cant get a good clean sound out of it dont know what there doing.
larryandrews said:
The 6505 series is identical to the 5150 series, electronically. The differences are only the outside faceplate and removal of signature, etc.. Otherwise, same amp. Personally, I prefer the 6505 without the signature stigma attached.
The 6505 is a 5150 and 6505+ is a 5150 II. There are more differences in the 6505+ besides just having an extra tube. The voicing is a little different than the the 5150 (6505), the gain is cut back a little as well. Seperate EQ's for each channel, and seperate resonance/presence for each channel.
SteveB
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I think I may be the only one here who actually owns a XXX head.
Let me tell you that before I bought it (last year), I tried a lot of heads, including Marshall JCM2000 DSL and TSL heads.
The XXX has a far superior 'clean' channel to the Marshalls, IMHO. The variable dampening on the XXX gives it a *lot* of tonal versatility. The ability to swap the power amp tubes (6L6's) over to EL34's and just flip a switch to change the amp's bias might be something that appeals to you.
It's a 120w head, and it can get incredibly loud.
The rhythm and lead channels can muster as much gain as you'd ever want. And while you certainly *can* get a 'scooped' sound, it isn't stuck in that mode. I hate scooped 'rectifier' sounds, personally.. yet I own a XXX and get great rhythm and lead sounds to my liking.
And since Marshall upped all their prices last year, it's even more compelling.
Let me tell you that before I bought it (last year), I tried a lot of heads, including Marshall JCM2000 DSL and TSL heads.
The XXX has a far superior 'clean' channel to the Marshalls, IMHO. The variable dampening on the XXX gives it a *lot* of tonal versatility. The ability to swap the power amp tubes (6L6's) over to EL34's and just flip a switch to change the amp's bias might be something that appeals to you.
It's a 120w head, and it can get incredibly loud.
The rhythm and lead channels can muster as much gain as you'd ever want. And while you certainly *can* get a 'scooped' sound, it isn't stuck in that mode. I hate scooped 'rectifier' sounds, personally.. yet I own a XXX and get great rhythm and lead sounds to my liking.
And since Marshall upped all their prices last year, it's even more compelling.
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J_Alexander said:
Let's not get crazy. The 5150 is a one trick pony if there ever was one.
And BTW, the JSX Ultra channel has more gain, IMO than the 5150. It also happens to have one of the best clean channels you'll find.
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larryandrews said:what about a marshall avt150 anyone have anything to say about them i know they only have a tube preamp but i wonder
I have a Marshall AVT 150. I tell you this about it: decent clean channel, decent built-in effects. This is where advantages end IMHO. OD2 channel is very strangely voiced. When you're in non-scoop mode it has too much mids even when it's on 0 !!! when you turn on the scoop switch it has too less mids even when cranked on 10!! I just can't find a sweet spot with it. Also it's quite quiet amp or it doesn't cut through the mix well cause with my band, during the gig I had to turn it to 1/2 power to hear myself while my friend's old Marshall Valvestate 40W was cranked maybe at 2 or 3.
The last thing which I REALLY don't like is the speaker. When you crank the amp up the sound gets thin and it buzzes like a hornet (especially on distortion). I don't know why this is happening but it sounds like the amp can't handle that volume and is distorting itself (can't explain it better).
Maybe I've got a failure one, but I don't think so cause when I played one in the other music store it sounded the same,
Sorry about the long post,
Philip
Tim O'Sullivan
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Have you thought about checking out the Peavey Penta? It seemed to get a good review in the magazine I read on the plane this morning!
CudBucket said:
+1 on the JSX ... really great modern sounding amp
+1 on the Orange Rockerverb also, i have both and couldnt part with either of them.
Whatever you do, forget the Peavey 4X12" ... you'll be better off with a used Marshall cab with Celestion speakers in it !
CudBucket said:
Not to start a flame war here. I think the JSX is fantastic amp, and one might be in my future a little down the road but.... to say the 5150 is a one trick pony is simply untrue. Common misconception though. The 'Lead' channel of 5150 can be very one trick, I won't argue that. It is a hell of a good trick though... The 'Rhythm' channel however, can be used to dial in nice cleans, mild OD for bluesy rock sounds, or full on second 'Lead' channel with a more Marshall/Plexi sound than the Lead channel. If you're talking combo, then you also have a warmer Rhythm channel and Reverb. Even more flexible is the 5150 II. A one trick pony? Can be, depending on how you use it. It doesn't have to be.
