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how about a handcrafted custom one?
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Hey that's cool, did you make that yourself? If not where did you find it?</div>
<div class="bbWrapper">Jay, I am guessing he used an Ibby neck on a custom made body. Either way looks cool. I sat down and played a STV a GC a few weeks ago and was blown away by how comfortable it was to play. Can't wait for an official bass version. JOSH<br />
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St. Vincent "Prince Vince" trans purple gold hardware stealth pg roasted bound neck</div>
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Jay, I am guessing he used an Ibby neck on a custom made body. Either way looks cool. I sat down and played a STV a GC a few weeks ago and was blown away by how comfortable it was to play. Can't wait for an official bass version. JOSH<br />
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St. Vincent "Prince Vince" trans purple gold hardware stealth pg roasted bound neck
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Just waiting for the right time to show it off <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
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Hey that's cool, did you make that yourself? If not where did you find it?
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Thanks!.....I did it by myself...., took all the measures and some specs on the Ernie ball web.....took me 2 1/2 months every Saturday afternoon...its 3.5 centimeters thick.... because 3 years ago I broke my left collarbone on an accident, it did not heal well, so since then, I have been struggling to hold a heavy weight bass for more than an hour ... So when I saw the weight of the st. Vincent guitar, I decided to try same idea on a bass....and of course, inspired on the original one....and the total weight its 3,2 kg...</div>
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If that's it, the headstock looks almost identical to an Ibanez Soundgear bass.
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<div class="bbWrapper">My favorite aspect of the St. Vincent bass is Annie Clark's design asthetic. In a promo she did for guitar center she described the shape as "Gender Inclusive" and I couldnt agree more. It's a very approachable instrument and I appreciate the light weight (one of things I love about my Caprice too). If it's like the guitar it should have some cool coil selection options. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /><br />
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Link to the GC promo video: <a href="https://youtu.be/1uTQbaah9wc" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">St. Vincent's Ernie Ball Music Man Signature Guitar with Guitar Center - YouTube</a></div>
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So educate me on the advantages of having a short scale bass?
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They are more punky sounding, more subject to enharmonic <br />
distortions, and some peeps dig that. You might just as well <br />
ask why 34" is more prevalent than 35" for long scale basses. <br />
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For a long time, I tuned all my basses to DGCF, which is really <br />
the same as short scale except it offers two low notes on each <br />
string that are absent from the actual 30" basses. IOW, if you <br />
capo a 34" DGCF bass at the 2nd fret, it's an EADG 31" bass. <br />
All the "short scale notes" are in the same place as on a short <br />
scale EADG bass ... there just happens to be 2 extra notes on <br />
each string, up near the nut [without that hypothetical capo]. <br />
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Acoarst the tension feels a bit different, not better or worse <br />
but merely personal preference for some players. <br />
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Another reason for a 30" scale is the ABG. Some happen to be <br />
34" scale but those suffer from excessively long reach to the <br />
cash zone, and also from neck dive due to the very light body <br />
and lack of a top horn. Even with a solid body, if the body is of <br />
the "Les Paul" shape, the shorter neck helps alleviate the dive <br />
and long reach resulting from the strap pin at the neck heel. <br />
The St Vincent shape is equally problematic. <br />
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OK. Thaz "Short Scale 101". There'll be a quiz next Tuesday <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></div>
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nice to know the body is problematic I didnt think it was.... <br />
but you have played it, right Golem <br />
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No need to be so defensive. Any explanation of where a 30" <br />
scale may offer some advantages must, by definition, touch <br />
on the situation of body shapes lacking a top horn .... which <br />
describes the St Vincent shape. If I discover another species <br />
of bird with tiny, barely vestigal wings, I will definitely class <br />
it as "Flightless" .... without ever tossing it up into the air to <br />
validate that classification. <br />
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Have I personally experienced plenty of examples of all that <br />
I referenced in my post ? You bet your BP I have, and I was <br />
relating well founded observations. IOW, I'll stand by every <br />
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<div class="bbWrapper">On short scales I prefer the shorter horn and the bridge very close to the end of the body. I think the StV. is a great design for a bass, I'm really looking forward.</div>
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actually you injected your opinion "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic." <br />
I was pointing out that it's hard to state as fact when we havent made one yet <br />
and followed it up with laughter. Lots of things to do if you are indeed correct <br />
and the first prototype is out of balance....I dont plan of offering it if it cannot <br />
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Hi BP. I tend to use too many words, yet in an instance where I used fewer <br />
words, maybe I offended or upset you. If I had written a more wordy style, <br />
the phrase <i>"The St Vincent shape is equally problematic."</i> might've been <br />
expanded to <i>"<u>Pictures of</u> the St. V. Bass <u>appear</u> to incorporate the hornless <br />
shape that typically will exhibit the balance problem when the bass has a <br />
full 34" scale ... and is not of headless design." </i><br />
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But even my wordy self doesn't write like THAT. Lawyers write like that ! <br />
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If I had been only a teeny bit more cautious I coulda added one word: <br />
<i>"The St Vincent shape <b>APPEARS</b> to be equally problematic."</i> But I'm <br />
thinking that woulda still triggered the the same reply from you. <br />
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I did critique the St. V. bass's SHAPE, not the bass itself which clearly I've <br />
never touched, nor hacked into your CAD system and built my own 1-off <br />
prototype ! IOW, <u>clearly I was critiquing a picture</u> of a bass not yet built, <br />
and applying common knowledge to the question of <i>"Will it be short scale ?" </i> <br />
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FWIW I'm more touchy than most players about balance, even on fretted <br />
basses, and playing almost entirely fretless makes it even worse. As I'm <br />
aware of that, I'd never push my personal judgement about a particular <br />
bass being "too neck heavy", cuz I'm admittedly more critical about that. <br />
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I moved the strap buttons on my Boingo 5 cuz I'm so picky ... but it's not <br />
something I'd wanna post as a Stickie to address a widespread complaint <br />
cuz acoarst there IS NO widespread complaint <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> OTOH a Boingo 4 really <br />
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