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St Vincent Bass!!!!

how about a handcrafted custom one?
 

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Jay, I am guessing he used an Ibby neck on a custom made body. Either way looks cool. I sat down and played a STV a GC a few weeks ago and was blown away by how comfortable it was to play. Can't wait for an official bass version. JOSH

... and Casey, how about a picture of...
St. Vincent "Prince Vince" trans purple gold hardware stealth pg roasted bound neck
 
mmbassplayer said:
Jay, I am guessing he used an Ibby neck on a custom made body. Either way looks cool. I sat down and played a STV a GC a few weeks ago and was blown away by how comfortable it was to play. Can't wait for an official bass version. JOSH

... and Casey, how about a picture of...
St. Vincent "Prince Vince" trans purple gold hardware stealth pg roasted bound neck
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Just waiting for the right time to show it off :D
 
CaseyBall said:
Hey that's cool, did you make that yourself? If not where did you find it?
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Thanks!.....I did it by myself...., took all the measures and some specs on the Ernie ball web.....took me 2 1/2 months every Saturday afternoon...its 3.5 centimeters thick.... because 3 years ago I broke my left collarbone on an accident, it did not heal well, so since then, I have been struggling to hold a heavy weight bass for more than an hour ... So when I saw the weight of the st. Vincent guitar, I decided to try same idea on a bass....and of course, inspired on the original one....and the total weight its 3,2 kg...
 
JayDawg said:
If that's it, the headstock looks almost identical to an Ibanez Soundgear bass.
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d1d1809baf2a9726c15939e3a19ffab2.jpghi.....I did it by myself, trying to copy an Ibanez iceman neck, which is my ideal neck..didnt notice the headstock is kind of sgr, took the idea of this pic.
 
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My favorite aspect of the St. Vincent bass is Annie Clark's design asthetic. In a promo she did for guitar center she described the shape as "Gender Inclusive" and I couldnt agree more. It's a very approachable instrument and I appreciate the light weight (one of things I love about my Caprice too). If it's like the guitar it should have some cool coil selection options. :-)

Link to the GC promo video: St. Vincent's Ernie Ball Music Man Signature Guitar with Guitar Center - YouTube
 
JayDawg said:
So educate me on the advantages of having a short scale bass?
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They are more punky sounding, more subject to enharmonic
distortions, and some peeps dig that. You might just as well
ask why 34" is more prevalent than 35" for long scale basses.

For a long time, I tuned all my basses to DGCF, which is really
the same as short scale except it offers two low notes on each
string that are absent from the actual 30" basses. IOW, if you
capo a 34" DGCF bass at the 2nd fret, it's an EADG 31" bass.
All the "short scale notes" are in the same place as on a short
scale EADG bass ... there just happens to be 2 extra notes on
each string, up near the nut [without that hypothetical capo].

Acoarst the tension feels a bit different, not better or worse
but merely personal preference for some players.

Another reason for a 30" scale is the ABG. Some happen to be
34" scale but those suffer from excessively long reach to the
cash zone, and also from neck dive due to the very light body
and lack of a top horn. Even with a solid body, if the body is of
the "Les Paul" shape, the shorter neck helps alleviate the dive
and long reach resulting from the strap pin at the neck heel.
The St Vincent shape is equally problematic.

OK. Thaz "Short Scale 101". There'll be a quiz next Tuesday :-)
 
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nice to know the body is problematic I didnt think it was....but you have played it, right Golem ahahahahahahahahahahha
 
Big Poppa said:
nice to know the body is problematic I didnt think it was....
but you have played it, right Golem
ahahahahahahahahahahha
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No need to be so defensive. Any explanation of where a 30"
scale may offer some advantages must, by definition, touch
on the situation of body shapes lacking a top horn .... which
describes the St Vincent shape. If I discover another species
of bird with tiny, barely vestigal wings, I will definitely class
it as "Flightless" .... without ever tossing it up into the air to
validate that classification.

Have I personally experienced plenty of examples of all that
I referenced in my post ? You bet your BP I have, and I was
relating well founded observations. IOW, I'll stand by every
word I wrote. I answered a brother's question .... answered
it well and thoroughly !
 
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On short scales I prefer the shorter horn and the bridge very close to the end of the body. I think the StV. is a great design for a bass, I'm really looking forward.
 
actually you injected your opinion "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic." I was pointing out that it's hard to state as fact when we havent made one yet and followed it up with laughter. Lots of things to do if you are indeed correct and the first prototype is out of balance....I dont plan of offering it if it cannot be made to our standards.
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Big Poppa said:
actually you injected your opinion "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic."
I was pointing out that it's hard to state as fact when we havent made one yet
and followed it up with laughter. Lots of things to do if you are indeed correct
and the first prototype is out of balance....I dont plan of offering it if it cannot
be made to our standards."
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Hi BP. I tend to use too many words, yet in an instance where I used fewer
words, maybe I offended or upset you. If I had written a more wordy style,
the phrase "The St Vincent shape is equally problematic." might've been
expanded to "Pictures of the St. V. Bass appear to incorporate the hornless
shape that typically will exhibit the balance problem when the bass has a
full 34" scale ... and is not of headless design."

But even my wordy self doesn't write like THAT. Lawyers write like that !

If I had been only a teeny bit more cautious I coulda added one word:
"The St Vincent shape APPEARS to be equally problematic." But I'm
thinking that woulda still triggered the the same reply from you.

I did critique the St. V. bass's SHAPE, not the bass itself which clearly I've
never touched, nor hacked into your CAD system and built my own 1-off
prototype ! IOW, clearly I was critiquing a picture of a bass not yet built,
and applying common knowledge to the question of "Will it be short scale ?"



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FWIW I'm more touchy than most players about balance, even on fretted
basses, and playing almost entirely fretless makes it even worse. As I'm
aware of that, I'd never push my personal judgement about a particular
bass being "too neck heavy", cuz I'm admittedly more critical about that.

I moved the strap buttons on my Boingo 5 cuz I'm so picky ... but it's not
something I'd wanna post as a Stickie to address a widespread complaint
cuz acoarst there IS NO widespread complaint :-) OTOH a Boingo 4 really
does have better balance than the 5-string, even tho mostly no one cares !
 
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