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flaze

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If you use a Music Man guitar, you shouldn't have a problem with the tune - if you put the strings on its right way!
Because of the locking Schaller tuners! If you put the strings well, there's no chance to go out of tune. It's just impossible.
I had more than 30 MM guitars, Luke's, JP's, Axis SS, Silo Special, and I never had this type of problem with them.
Except my first JP, when I didn't know yet how to put the strings on a right way. :) After I learned it. I think that this is the real problem. You also don't know how to do it. Yet. Look some pictures of it or ask your MM dealer!

Anyway, if you have not MM guitar, you can use this setup, it works with every vintage tremolo:


Hey! Thanks for your feedback! There's any secret to put the strings correctly? I just keep the string stretched as possible and just turn the tuners less as possible. There's more secret?

Bye!
 

DrKev

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Carl Verheyen is a wonderful guitarist and we should all learn to play the guitar from him. But he is a lousy physics teacher and you should ignore anything he refers to as physics in this video. The claw does not have to be angled and the trem will work just as well if you the opposite of what he says. Try it! The intervals we get pulling up are related to the tension and gauge of the strings and how far off the top of the guitar the trem is, and nothing to do with the tension of the springs or angle of the claw.

Flaze, the knife edges on any trem will wear with time. Usually we'll see the chrome flake off and sometimes some changes in the shape of the edges too. often it has little effect on tuning stability unless it's particularly bad. The first thing to improve tuning stability (and something Verheyen totally ignores in the two videos I've seen like this) is lubrication. A tiny amount of vaseline or pencil lead in the nut slots can make a big difference. Clean old lube out and re-lube with every string change. Try it. It will help.

If you are still worried about your guitar, and MM support in Brazil can't help you, send an email to Music Man Customer Service here (see link in my signature below).
 

Pablo

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The new nut that i've ordered arrived last week. Than the luthier installed the new nut and...
Hold on, are you telling me that your luthier/tech changed the nut because the slots were too narrow? If so, my advise is to find another tech! If the slots are too narrow, all that's needed is a stroke with a nut file and a bit of cleaning up afterwards.

The JP trem is very stable for a non-locking trem, but isn't perfect (no trem is), if you are looking for perfect, a keyboard really is the only option... and we really don't want to go there ;)

Cheers

Eske
 

beej

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Carl Verheyen is a wonderful guitarist and we should all learn to play the guitar from him. But he is a lousy physics teacher and you should ignore anything he refers to as physics in this video. The claw does not have to be angled and the trem will work just as well if you the opposite of what he says. Try it! The intervals we get pulling up are related to the tension and gauge of the strings and how far off the top of the guitar the trem is, and nothing to do with the tension of the springs or angle of the claw.
+100

I thought we'd seen the last of this video.
 
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