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shreder75 said:
slight correction..it's new to ME =) I bought it used....

anywho, I'd try graphite before I do any hacking to the nut..lol....

ring me if you want this am....i'm working on a couple guitars in the ole garage....
just buffed out beej's neck !!!! :D

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shreder75 said:
is this a common th ing with these? I think it's binding at the nut....what role do the locking tuners play in all this?



When restringing, turn the tuner's holes toward the corresponding nut slots. This will keep the strings as short as possible for more stable tuning.
 

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peat said:
When restringing, turn the tuner's holes toward the corresponding nut slots. This will keep the strings as short as possible for more stable tuning.

yeah, I know what you're saying...keep them on the inside of the headstock in other words....

I think I screwed the pooch stringing this thing..lol..but like I said, first time with a non double locking guitar...

i'll get it next time..LOL
 

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screwed the pooch ?!?!?

im not sure if you know what i mean
the string shouldnt be wrapped around the tuning pegs at all
it should only be about 1/2 way around at the most
meaning when you restring it, you pull the string thru the tuner
as far as you can
as tight as you can
and tighten the locking screw on the back
cut off the excess
then youll only need to give it a few turns to tune it to pitch

is this what youve got?
 

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jongitarz said:
I have same questions


I wasn't asking for any help. I was just agreeing with the initial post. Thanks for the sarcasm.


He asked if it was a common thing, so I told him that I have the same problem so that it would let him know that he's not the only one.
 
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peat said:
screwed the pooch ?!?!?

im not sure if you know what i mean
the string shouldnt be wrapped around the tuning pegs at all
it should only be about 1/2 way around at the most
meaning when you restring it, you pull the string thru the tuner
as far as you can
as tight as you can
and tighten the locking screw on the back
cut off the excess
then youll only need to give it a few turns to tune it to pitch

is this what youve got?

screweed the pooch = 'I messed it up'..

lol...

nah,that's not what I've got..a couple are more wrapped around than others....I'm a locking tuner virgin..be gentle =)
 

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next time you change strings make sure you do it like that
so there is absolutely the minimum amount of string wrapped around the tuner
cos its locking it doesnt need the wrapping of the string to 'grip' the tuner
also you can cut off the string right up as close to the hole as possible cos it aint gonna slip out
and also it looks very, very neat
AND
never get stabbed in the thumb with the high e string again :D
 

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peat said:
next time you change strings make sure you do it like that
so there is absolutely the minimum amount of string wrapped around the tuner
cos its locking it doesnt need the wrapping of the string to 'grip' the tuner
also you can cut off the string right up as close to the hole as possible cos it aint gonna slip out
and also it looks very, very neat
AND
never get stabbed in the thumb with the high e string again :D

thanks for the info dude..really apreciate it!

at first I thought you had to tune it THEN lock the tuners...I thought theylocked the peg in place..but they lock the string in the peg...now I know better =)
 

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glad to help out my friend
let us know how you go
i dont know if this is whats causing your problem
but that is definitely how you should have you strings
 

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peat said:
glad to help out my friend
let us know how you go
i dont know if this is whats causing your problem
but that is definitely how you should have you strings

might not be the total cause, but I'm sure it's not helping...I do think it has a little bit with the strings binding at the nut as well...I'll get some of that ball juice, or nut wax or whatever the hell it's called...lol
 

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I'm pretty sure you'll have to widen the nut slots. Anyway, if you do, just make sure you only "widen" the grooves, and NOT "deepen" them.
 

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dan desy said:
I'm pretty sure you'll have to widen the nut slots. Anyway, if you do, just make sure you only "widen" the grooves, and NOT "deepen" them.

thanks for the info....that'll be a last resort
 

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I posted this same info, more or less, in another thread, but I like repeating myself! :D

Self-lubing nuts like the one on the JP take time to break in. The nut slots "burnish", or smooth out over time as the srings slide through them from bending and tremolo use. The more you use the trem, the better it gets and it doens't take that long.

If the guy that you bought it from rarely used the tremolo, OR if he didn't use it enough to break in the nut, it will bind. Most all of them do when they are still new.

Some people just can't stand it and immediately lube the nut, and there is nothing at all wrong with that. I usually just whammy the crap out of it, let it go out of tune, retune and whammy some more. After about 2 or three string changes (a few weeks or less) you won't ever have to use lube. That is what those nuts (Graphtech, or whatever) are for. This is my third non-locking with a graphtech nut, and they DO work, but it takes a little time and patience, whereas all my double locking guitars were usually good to go out of the box. It's just the nature of the non-locking beast.

In one case, with my F*nder I used some 2000 grit sandpaper folded with a sharp edge and lightly smoothed out the slots. Not to remove any height, or open them up... just to remove any potential "burrs" or uneveness in the slot bottoms. This helps speed up the break in process and it works great! AND, you don't have to be a pro to do it! ;)

Oh, and proper string installation, as mentioned by others in this thread, is critical to tuning stability. But you already know that now! :)

Good luck!

Ryan
 
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rrhea said:
I posted this same info, more or less, in another thread, but I like repeating myself! :D

Self-lubing nuts like the one on the JP take time to break in. The nut slots "burnish", or smooth out over time as the srings slide through them from bending and tremolo use. The more you use the trem, the better it gets and it doens't take that long.

If the guy that you bought it from rarely used the tremolo, OR if he didn't use it enough to break in the nut, it will bind. Most all of them do when they are still new.

Some people just can't stand it and immediately lube the nut, and there is nothing at all wrong with that. I usually just whammy the crap out of it, let it go out of tune, retune and whammy some more. After about 2 or three string changes (a few weeks or less) you won't ever have to use lube. That is what those nuts (Graphtech, or whatever) are for. This is my third non-locking with a graphtech nut, and they DO work, but it takes a little time and patience, whereas all my double locking guitars were usually good to go out of the box. It's just the nature of the non-locking beast.

In one case, with my F*nder I used some 2000 grit sandpaper folded with a sharp edge and lightly smoothed out the slots. Not to remove any height, or open them up... just to remove any potential "burrs" or uneveness in the slot bottoms. This helps speed up the break in process and it works great! AND, you don't have to be a pro to do it! ;)

Oh, and proper string installation, as mentioned by others in this thread, is critical to tuning stability. But you already know that now! :)

Good luck!

Ryan


yeah, i remember you mentioning the break in period...who knows..maybe he didn't use the trem at all...it's funny..if my bar isn't in, i won't miss it...if it's there I'mdrawn to it like a moth to a friggin' flame...lol

just so long as I know that it's nothing major and it can be corrected makes me feel a ton better!
 

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shreder75 said:
might not be the total cause, but I'm sure it's not helping...I do think it has a little bit with the strings binding at the nut as well...I'll get some of that ball juice, or nut wax or whatever the hell it's called...lol

It's called Brazilian Nut Wax ;) :eek:
 
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