Waiting to be clubbed :(

[Sub1 Zero]

this does give me a good feeling about the order ill be placing soon

 

[Dakine]

Big Poppa
in my own "kak handed way" thats what I was aiming at.
I had read other posts recently about things I mentioned.
I thought it an idea to get it all in one post so it could all be dispelled.

I am SURE I could have done a better job but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

BTW, my Axis is sold (still have one though!) so WILL be purchasing a Piezo Equiped JP6 next week.
That should speak about how I feel without anything else said/written

BTW, is it next week yet????????? LOL

Cannot say EVER been this excited about a guitar, and it will be my FIRST brand new one to boot



Nick

 

[Larry]

not to get all caught up in this but all guitar finish crack. Its a natural thing when the paint cannot expand with the heat and wood you get finish cracks. It does nothing to the guitar nor the tone. Its just cosmetic. You carry this risk when you buy a guitar from another state. When i sent my guitar to EBMM i ran the risk of finish crack going from the 35 degree weather in Chicago to the warm California weather on the UPS truck. Its just the risk of the game. Look at the Gibsons they crack all over the place.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Hey Nick -

Great decision on ordering that JP - they are phenomenal instruments and I have nothing but good things to say about mine - and wait until you get to experience that trem - holy schnikes! That is, Sweetness!

So, congrats on that good move - wish I had had the foresight to order mine with the piezo. Guess I'll just have to get another one someday.

And good luck with the waiting.

 

[Dakine]

Yeah a week SUCKS! lol
Patience grasshopper, patience my butt lol
Not sure bout piezo. Have an Ovation, but, don't wanna wish I had later on.

Now, looks like either WHITE or GRAPHITE PEARL............dunno....too many choices AGGGHHHH.

Also, not a trem man really. But no hardtail so no choice lol.

 

[MrHyde]

I remenber when I first ordered my JP6 I was going insane at first cuz i had to wait 3 months for it, but u know what guys, after some thinking and a few pm's with Aziah I was actually starting to feel a bit important or confidence u know, I felt I was really taken care off, gives u a sense of security and confidence that the guitar ur going to pick up at the store its totally virgin, that no dumbass has been putting his greasy hands on it, and that it was built for me, cuz I ordered, may seem a bit selfcentered or what not, but thats the way I felt after a month or so of waiting, so actually I feel really good when someone asks me whats my guitar and I say " EBMM jp6" they go nutz cuz they have never played one before, and that would not be the case if I go like g!s0n or f3ndr, cuz they will probably go like oh ok my bud has one of those..... that's y its so good to belong to this family u get a nice feeling that u own a quality product with a superb customer service, and a sence of confort that a very few companies can give, so i dont mind to go to a store and dont find one, and when i do find one its such a rush cuz u know that theres an oasis in the middle of the dessert ( if u know what i mean ) and when u grab it, it feels like home....

just my 2 cents

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

Yeah a week SUCKS! lol
Patience grasshopper, patience my butt lol
Not sure bout piezo. Have an Ovation, but, don't wanna wish I had later on.

Now, looks like either WHITE or GRAPHITE PEARL............dunno....too many choices AGGGHHHH.

Also, not a trem man really. But no hardtail so no choice lol.

Trust me, you want the WHITE one. Or maybe a Carbon Blue...

 

[Dakine]

I DO want the WHITE one. 100% SURE now

 

[fearofcups]

Can't we all just get along, were all on the same side here

 

[Katana6506]

Can't we all just get along, were all on the same side here

THIS THREAD DIED LONG AGO. LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY.

Thank you.

 

[Knox]

As for distribution, it is impossible for EBMM to set a standard worldwide price. How can they? They do not control the economics of any country. That is simply the way it is. Then, the dealer can ask whatever price he/she wants. That cannot be controlled either. EBMM only puts an MSRP (key word - suggested) and it is up to the dealer to sell the guitar/bass at a price they deem.

I disagree....I'm currently searching for another EBMM and this time its a LUKE....I wouldn't even consider going to my dealer to get one......the retail price at the monent for a LUKE standard over here in the UK is touching on £1400 GBP....is that the MSRP for EBMM guitars set for the UK? I'm pretty sure it isn't! How much more profit does EBMM get from UK Dealers when orders are placed. The MRSP in the US is half what it is in the UK so that equates to 200% profit for UK sourced instruments?

That rougly equates to nearly $3000 .....

I don't think thats fair or justified under any circumstances......how am I helping EBMM over here in the UK by constantly buying from the US.....anyone who can and does buy new in the UK and Europe must be mad.....or else doesn't care that they are paying over the odds (nearly double) for an instrument not worth the retail price in the UK/Europe.

A $1500 JP or Luke or Axis etc should cost the equivalent in the UK regardless of TAX or VAT....then maybe I wouldn't need to risk my hard earned on Flea Bay or dealing with strangers over the net....

A can of Coke in the US costs the same in the UK...economies of scale and all that?

 

[robelinda2]

yeah thats freekin insane dude, i can never believe how much guitars are in the UK, i think they are bad here in Oz, but you guys are getting royally screwed. i know its bad, but i buy off ebay all the time, i just cant afford the cost of new guitars here. i have made a big effort this year to save hard and buy 3 Ernie Balls brand new, and one of evilbay.

 

[Big Poppa]

Coke is made in england that is sold in england....You are off your rocker if you think that an instrument should have the same retail in England as it does in usa.....I cant possibly help here

 

[robelinda2]

too right BP. As has been explanied before on this forum, EB has nothing to do with the retail price in other countries, and cant do anything about it. how many more times must people bring this topic up?

 

[tkharris]

Coke is made in england that is sold in england....You are off your rocker if you think that an instrument should have the same retail in England as it does in usa.....I cant possibly help here

You know I do not think he is off his rocker to expect a fair price for the guitar. 2 times the prices or as in Germany $4200 for the same $1600 guitar I think is a bit crazy.

I also think that Ernie Ball owners are expected to accept the "Stress Crack Theory" as being ok is also crap. Any guitar that has finish cracks like EBMM JPM's and always in the same spot has a design issue and to blame it on the cases when the problem still ooccurs to this day is and should be unacceptable. But we as fans of these instruments are told to keep buying them and to live with the cracks and are told, "It is only Cosmetic and does not effect the playabilty of the guitar" So who is really off there Rocker? I should go buy a car with Hail Damage because hey it is only cosmetic. I do not think so. When spending the money that we spend for these guitars we should not have to be worrying about issues with these instruments.

What I find funny here and on the JP forum is that anytime any one says that EBMM has quality issues or is unsatified with the service they receive they are automatically "Flamed" is also not right. Creative criticism is not a bad thing and people should not be attacked when it is obvious they are trying to understand a situation better. I could not believe how obvious Dekine was being in his sincerity to help understand the way EBMM does business and even maybe offer a few suggestions whether good or bad or not even practical they were suggestions from truly a very loyal customer.

 

[Big Poppa]

TK
Congrats! After badgering our customer service, sending me multiple PM's, beating the Iraq card to death attempting to get way out of warranty priducts fixed......I was going to help you but you are on your own......

Since you are so smart.....Are Music Man instruments the only ones that are more expensive when exported? Geeeee I guess that there is freight vat duty overhead that provides artist relations advertising marketing warehousing warranty sales shipping gas electric.

Ill make you a deal If you can develop a distribution model for our guitars where they c can cost the same you not only have your gguittars fixed but a very high paying job.

P.S> How many times do I have to shut off my PM's I have asked hundreds of times that people respect my inbox.

 

[GHWelles]

I wouldn't change the paint on the JP for anything. I was very impressed with it when I got mine, and still am. The colors and finish quality are excellent, but even more important for me, it is a thin hard poly finish that makes the guitar more resonant and acoustically louder. (And I have not seen any of this "cracking".)


I have seen and played plenty of poly painted guitars for other companies that were 1/8" thick or more. These guitars look like they are dipped in poly and pulled out to drip dry. That thick poly may not ever crack, but makes the guitar sound dead and feel like it is made of plastic.

And the case is fine. Offers lots of protection. But cases end up in my garage anyway, so it is not a big issue.

Some people just like to complain, or don't know true quality when they see it.

 

[tkharris]

See this is exactly what I am talking. I did not badger your customer service. They made their points and I made mine and in the end they said "No". When I sent you the one and only PM i have ever sent you it was just to let you know as the owner of your company that the statement you made saying most problems with EBMM guitars are found within the 1 year Warranty Period. That was not the case with my guitar. Your company made your stand and I was trying to talk to you instead of through this forum because I did not think this was the place to do it. If what you write on the forum are differant than what is actually happening then I thought you would like to know also. But I have also read through the forum how upset you get when any one brings up the "Stress Crack Issue" and I think that is unfair when the issue is not fixed.

When I talked about the price differance I did not say I had a fix for it. I have talked with Beth in great detail about and she also made me smarter about an issue that I was also concerned about. Still does not mean I think it is right the way the system works but it is the way it is.

Am I wrong for thinking if a guitar sits in it case for 3 years while I am in Iraq working to come home to see that it has to stress cracks then to read on this very forum that it was a known issue with the cases and that the problems has been fixed. Well maybe those who bought them before the cases were changed should have been offered new cases. Like a "Recall" item on your car. I did not have my tuner break or a knob fall off outside the warranty period. I had a known issue since these guitars have been built happen to my first EBMM JPM. And yes it is a issue that is continuing to happen so the problem still is not fixed.

 

[kbaim]

These do seem to be interesting topics.

With good points to be considered by all.

 

[koogie2k]

I disagree....I'm currently searching for another EBMM and this time its a LUKE....I wouldn't even consider going to my dealer to get one......the retail price at the monent for a LUKE standard over here in the UK is touching on £1400 GBP....is that the MSRP for EBMM guitars set for the UK? I'm pretty sure it isn't! How much more profit does EBMM get from UK Dealers when orders are placed. The MRSP in the US is half what it is in the UK so that equates to 200% profit for UK sourced instruments?

That rougly equates to nearly $3000 .....

I don't think thats fair or justified under any circumstances......how am I helping EBMM over here in the UK by constantly buying from the US.....anyone who can and does buy new in the UK and Europe must be mad.....or else doesn't care that they are paying over the odds (nearly double) for an instrument not worth the retail price in the UK/Europe.

A $1500 JP or Luke or Axis etc should cost the equivalent in the UK regardless of TAX or VAT....then maybe I wouldn't need to risk my hard earned on Flea Bay or dealing with strangers over the net....

A can of Coke in the US costs the same in the UK...economies of scale and all that?

Believe me, I can understand the frustration. I just don't see how EBMM could regulate pricing everywhere on the planet. I do feel bad you guys/gals have to pay quite a bit more over there. Unfortunately, I cannot give you an answer, as I am not in the business and can only speculate.