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PeteDuBaldo

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True, its still not as expensive as a Suhr, and especially a Tom Anderson. I'd like to get an HSS to go with my SSS, but a Valentine will likely come first. Its just a shame about the hike in price - i'd be interested to know if its just a market position decision or its an increase in cost to make, or if really 1500 just wasn't sustainable

There was an increase on all instruments across the board. With the Cutlass and StingRay also getting an upgrade to figured roasted maple it made the price change on them a bit more significant.
 

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For some reason the photos of the bottom row disappeared along with 50,000 text messages (maybe due to faulty cell-phone setup?). We are doing our best to locate the missing photos.

I bet they show up when you go back to GMT on your cell phone... but only when it chooses to do so on its own.
 

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1. We dont discontinue guitars. The public does. We have never discontinued a model with a large order back log

2. Please dont that the euro vs usa prices.

3. The Modern classics were introduced with forward pricing and also to give early adopters a pricing advantage. We cannot survive making a $1500 street guitar in California.

4. We offered so many new features and colors and once again 80% is critical. We try everything and make what we can get orders for.
 

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1. We dont discontinue guitars. The public does. We have never discontinued a model with a large order back log

2. Please dont that the euro vs usa prices.

3. The Modern classics were introduced with forward pricing and also to give early adopters a pricing advantage. We cannot survive making a $1500 street guitar in California.

4. We offered so many new features and colors and once again 80% is critical. We try everything and make what we can get orders for.

Thanks for the clarifications.
Its worth noting, despite the critiques, pretty much everyone here is planning on plunging their hand in their wallet to buy one of these - including me (once i've finished paying off the St Vincent BFR anyway). Passion brings critics, but it brings open wallets too ;)
Kudos on the new range
 
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Does that mean a Luke 2 BFR can still be ordered? If it can’t, it’s been discontinued, surely? Not really getting what you’re saying regarding customers causing a guitar to be discontinued. Sure, if it isn’t selling at all then you make the call, but that’s still a cal that comes from the company, not the customer. It’s rather disingenuous to say the public made you do it!

Re non US prices, it's relevant for people that don't live in the US. Don't see the problem. Don't think anyone is criticising the pricing that I've seen.
 
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1. We dont discontinue guitars. The public does. We have never discontinued a model with a large order back log


3. The Modern classics were introduced with forward pricing and also to give early adopters a pricing advantage. We cannot survive making a $1500 street guitar in California.

4. We offered so many new features and colors and once again 80% is critical. We try everything and make what we can get orders for.

#1 .... AMEN. Truth as always from BP.

#3, no doubt.

#4, NO other company breaks it's back like EBMM to satisfy it's customer/fan base. I have FULLY seen that from the other side of the curtain.

humbled to be an EBMM owner and PROSELYTIZER again.
 

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#4, NO other company breaks it's back like EBMM to satisfy it's customer/fan base. I have FULLY seen that from the other side of the curtain.

They're a great company, no doubt, and I get why BP is often defensive as I'm a business owner myself, but all the high end companies bend over backwards for their customers. Slightly off topic but, outwith EBMM, I've only dealt with Suhr and cannot fault them in any way either. After 3 years, my carve top Standard developed delamination round the neck pocket and I contacted them for a price to correct it. Was delighted and amazed that they told me to drop it off at my dealer and they'd ship it over to the US form the UK, refinish it and ship it back at no cost. So, yes, there are other great companies out there. I know many here are utterly loyal to EBMM to the exclusion of all others but there are other choices.

Keep doing what you do well but no need to be critical of the buyers. I'm just trying to clarify if I can have the Luke 2 BFR I've been saving over a year for! Bit frustrating that neither the dealer nor the UK distributor was given any form of notice it was being discontinued only a month before it happened. Had they been given notice, I'd have put down a deposit and ordered one last month and not waited! Heck, if word got out, you might have found an influx of orders that would have changed your mind!
 

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All fair points. I love my balls (and my ernies too - boom!) but i have other brands. Suhr is one i'm gonna buy from eventually myself. Got a few more ernies to get first- Valentine, HSS Cutlass, (and i also do need a jazzmaster too...) You can never have too many guitars i say. EBMM customer service is great, its just a shame UK can't deal direct with US because anytime i've bene in touch they have been ace, but i understand you have to have a distribution network to manage the international side.

I think one truism of any business is that you're never gonna please everybody or be able to cater to everybody.

The UK should have a huge EBMM market considering the quality, but its not there yet. I think its growing since the new models came out though. There are a few shops in the UK that keep a nice stock of 10-15 guitars, but they are not the big chains stores like PMT. the Midlands is particualrly poorly served. You can order them in the Midlands, but you can't try much.
PMT in notts has 4 guitars. Majesty, Luke, Silo, an ASS.
Go down to Regent Sounds in London, or Project Music in Exeter, wayyyy more choice to try - but its a long drive.
I hope one of the single owner dealers in the Midlands might become an EBMM dealer at some point. There's some really good independents round here where EBMM would fit well i think.

Anyway, thats all off topic.

Pete - did they have a firemist HSS cutlass at the show?
 

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There is a Firemist Silver available on the Cutlass and StingRay but I don't remember if there was an HSS at the show. The Firemist Purple and Firemist Gold are not available on the cutlass or ray.

OK, thanks Pete. If you happen to come across a picture let me know? The Firemist silver looks blue-ish to me - bit like Ice Blue toned down. How would you describe it?
 

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That's pretty accurate, a very light silver-blue. Here's what I've got
Cutlass2018-3.jpg
 

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That's good then - i dig it like that. That's confirmed it for me - that finish in HSS with the roasted neck. It will be mine. It might even jump the queue ahead of the valentine...
 
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