Girls Of Ernie Ball Calendar

[bassmonkeee]

Observation....look at the "g" string over the pups. See how it is barley over the front pole? The rear one also. If you bend this string upward on the neck, the string is completly gone from the pole. Any chance of redesigning the poles to be slightly closer, thus advoiding the situation?

Owning two Bongos, and having played many, I can assure you that I have never heard, nor had mentioned to me, that the G string was more quiet, or had less output. Aside from aesthetics, I have never noticed an issue, and it's only a visual issue from certain angles.

Besides, if you are bending, won't the string end up not being over the poles, anyway?

 

[tkarter]

Hope you have had your shots

I haven't had mine.


tk

 

[BigBallz]

Owning two Bongos, and having played many, I can assure you that I have never heard, nor had mentioned to me, that the G string was more quiet, or had less output. Aside from aesthetics, I have never noticed an issue, and it's only a visual issue from certain angles.

Besides, if you are bending, won't the string end up not being over the poles, anyway?

Yes, but to start in the middle of the pole would be better than barley over it. As far as for picture angle...I can look straight on at mine... a&d string dead center over the pole...g string 1/4over pole toward the neck...e string boute the same toward the neck.....interesting.....

 

[BigBallz]

Hope you have had your shots

I haven't had mine.


tk

Hey, I had enough shots thrown at me the other day......

 

[CodeMonkey]

Am I crazy to assume that the magnets in the pickup are putting out a magnetic field and that as long as the string remains in the field then you will hear it? Either that or I need to go back and re-read that article on pickup theory.

 

[BigBallz]

Am I crazy to assume that the magnets in the pickup are putting out a magnetic field and that as long as the string remains in the field then you will hear it? Either that or I need to go back and re-read that article on pickup theory.

A field decreases in strength the further out it extends. A classic example of this in guitar/bass pup, is to lower your pups...1/8 inch will have a noticable decrease in output.

 

[NorM]

I am an avid if not rabid EB bass fan. However I could look at a calendar with all 12 months being a pic of the 20th aniv. Silo.

tk

First I decide to get a guitar based on the same color combo as your Ray. Now you come up with this?
You and I sir are of like mind.

Pics I do want featured on the pages for each model

Flaming Logan green
That Sick natural Sterling or Saber <- I need help finding that one again.
My Blue Dawn
LaRue's Sterling and Blue Dawn Bongo
Ernie's Pets <--That's easy
Keiths sunburst Luke
Steve's #1 and y2d
Hugo's Buttercream
savannah sean's morse
JimiD's Teal Sport
Silo #1

Foggy just PM'd me and he's cool with it. GWDavis had some great input and ideas to make things easier for and accessible for everyone.

Is Desert Gold considered the signature color for Bongos?

BP,
If you make a suggestion on a pic you would like to see in the collage(s) I would love to honor it.

Lets see how quick Foggy can put a page together.

 

[CodeMonkey]

A field decreases in strength the further out it extends. A classic example of this in guitar/bass pup, is to lower your pups...1/8 inch will have a noticable decrease in output.

So are you worrying about bending a note up? Seems to me that would put it farther into the field. Or down, where the pup seems to extend far enough to keep the string in the field? I get the part about verticle movement, I'm curious as to your reasoning about horizontal movement (to the fretboard).

 

[BigBallz]

Owning two Bongos, and having played many, I can assure you that I have never heard, nor had mentioned to me, that the G string was more quiet, or had less output. Aside from aesthetics, I have never noticed an issue, and it's only a visual issue from certain angles.

Besides, if you are bending, won't the string end up not being over the poles, anyway?

Did a lil searching for you.....


11-15-2005, 06:36 AM #13
Big Poppa
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Posts: 1,715 This trait has been around since the first day of the stingray. Its is NOT a byproduct of wood. It is due to the active preamp used on the bass. The output isnt actually lower the response is thinner sounding or not as fat. IT is one of the things you get used to with a Sting Ray or not. Believe it or not it was a complaint of mine in the beginning when I worked with Leo. The emerging slap and the old school country click players loved it. That thin snappin G sound helped the Sr taked off. You can try flats and it will help, but chances are that you will bet used to it by playing ...


Answered my question completely..........

 

[GWDavis28]

NorM, don't forget there are some great shots here as well.

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11316

Glenn |B)

 

[BigBallz]

So are you worrying about bending a note up? Seems to me that would put it farther into the field. Or down, where the pup seems to extend far enough to keep the string in the field? I get the part about verticle movement, I'm curious as to your reasoning about horizontal movement (to the fretboard).

Bending up...toward the middle of the neck...this takes the string completly away from the pole, as it is 1/4 over it at resting. However...see my previous post. This is a "trait" with the Sting Ray.

 

[bassmonkeee]

Did a lil searching for you.....


11-15-2005, 06:36 AM #13
Big Poppa
Moderator
Ernie Ball Customer Service




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: indio & slo
Posts: 1,715 This trait has been around since the first day of the stingray. Its is NOT a byproduct of wood. It is due to the active preamp used on the bass. The output isnt actually lower the response is thinner sounding or not as fat. IT is one of the things you get used to with a Sting Ray or not. Believe it or not it was a complaint of mine in the beginning when I worked with Leo. The emerging slap and the old school country click players loved it. That thin snappin G sound helped the Sr taked off. You can try flats and it will help, but chances are that you will bet used to it by playing ...


Answered my question completely..........

Yeah, but doesn't that quote say that's a result of the preamp, and not the pickup pole placement? Besides--bridge pickup issue on a Stingray is not the same as the neck pickup on a Bongo.

In any event, I haven't had any tone issues with my Bongos. Maybe it's my playing style, or that I have flats on both of them, or the way I EQ my sound. I dunno. But, pickup pole alignment simply hasn't come up as an issue needing correcting in my daily Bongo travails.

Now, bank account issues that prevent me from buying a new Bongo every couple of months in different colors to match my mood/wardrobe/aura is another story.

 

[tkarter]

You wait until you get your hands on that guitar NorM. Graphite Pearl is so much better looking than a picture can convey.

tk

 

[BigBallz]

Yeah, but doesn't that quote say that's a result of the preamp, and not the pickup pole placement? Besides--bridge pickup issue on a Stingray is not the same as the neck pickup on a Bongo.

In any event, I haven't had any tone issues with my Bongos. Maybe it's my playing style, or that I have flats on both of them, or the way I EQ my sound. I dunno. But, pickup pole alignment simply hasn't come up as an issue needing correcting in my daily Bongo travails.

Now, bank account issues that prevent me from buying a new Bongo every couple of months in different colors to match my mood/wardrobe/aura is another story.

Yes, now that I see the "reasoning" behind the "thin" "G" string output, the pole placement seems to matter less.

As usuall bassmonkee....thanks for your input towards this....

 

[bovinehost]

Am I crazy to assume that the magnets in the pickup are putting out a magnetic field and that as long as the string remains in the field then you will hear it?

You are crazy, but you're also correct.

If you look at the underside of a Bongo pickup, those steel pole pieces go down and meet up with a Neodymium magnet which is glued on. As my pal Brad said, "Very careful engineering by the EB folks, nothing to worry about." He's a lot smarter than I am about such things.

You can see in some photos that the G string is not perfectly aligned over the pole piece - I agree. The question for the player becomes, "Is it significant?"

I can say with complete authority and comfort - "No, it is not."

While the occasional complaint surfaces about a 'thinner sounding' G string on the Stingrays, no one - to my knowledge - has every found a 'thin' G string on a Bongo. I've had nine or ten Bongos and plan on having more, we had fourteen or fifteen here the other night, and not a single one had a 'thin' G string.

String to string balance, in fact, is awesome.

This issue was beaten to death early on when I first got a Bongo and yes, the alignment is not perfectly over the G pole piece on some instruments. But again, the question for me was - would it cause the G string to have lower output?

Theory is one thing. Practice is another. In practice, there is no cause for concern.

Hope that helps.

Jack

 

[BigBallz]

So then the Bongos have a different preamp circuit?

 

[bovinehost]

Than the Stingray?

Oh my, yes. Completely different.

First, it's 18v. Second, it's a four band. Wildly different, I would say.

 

[fogman]

I won't have time to read all this thread until tonight, but are we talking about a one page like a poster? or a regular 12 page calendar?

I like the idea of a poster!

 

[BigBallz]

I won't have time to read all this thread until tonight, but are we talking about a one page like a poster? or a regular 12 page calendar?

I like the idea of a poster!

Well, now that you brought it up...why not both?

 

[bovinehost]

I vote poster, unless we can get an accordian folding thing like a road map.