It's official... EVH and Peavey part company...

[Jimi D]

...and I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!.

Peavey press release (also known as stating the obvious)

So I wonder how many weeks it will take to sink in for all those delusional Peavey faithful who've been locked in denial the last six months or so... ("What makes you think Eddie would ever leave Peavey. Peavey would say something if Ed were leaving.")

 

[nobozos]

So I guess the big question is: where does Eddie go from here?

I guess we already know the answer to that question on the guitar end. After years of Peavey begging him to let them produce a striped Wolfgang, he decides to make his next guitar a bolt-on basswood bodied, single humbucker strat with a Floyd Rose, whose main selling point is a striped paintjob. I guess his days of innovation are behind him. I could understand a limited run of these guitars for the hardcore fans and collectors, but to make this your signature guitar would be kind of silly. After all, it's just a Strat! It is the most produced guitar in the history of electric guitars. Every single manufacturer makes their own version of a strat.

I have heard from different sources (none of them with any real credibility) that Eddie will be making a new version of the Wolfgang with Charvel, which is basically Fender.

I, personally, am curious as to who is going to make his new 5150 amps? Peavey was an unlikely choice for Eddie to go to for the Wolfgang, since the Peavey company was never really known for it's high quality guitars, but they were a pretty good amp company. They weren't high end amps like Marshall or Fender, but the amps were real workhorses. Real blue collar amps.

So, Eddie is looking for an amp manufacturer. What will he do? One option would be to try to get Marshall to build him his own signature amp based on his original modded Marshall amp. I don't think Marshall would do it though. They have only made two signature amps, one for Slash, and one for Zakk Wyled. Both were JCM 800 heads, and I'm not sure what mods if any were done to them.
He could have Fender do it, but they are not really a high gain amp builder, so I think that's out.

In the past, Eddie has indicated that he prefers his signature stuff to me USA made, so that limits our options. You have Carvin, Crate, and Mesa. Mesa has never made a signature amp, so I don't think that they will start with Eddie. Carvin already makes the Legacy, the Steve Vai Signature amp. That might not be a bad choice, except that you have to mail order all their stuff, and you can't test drive it. That leaves Crate. Crate already makes Sammy Hagar's Signature amp, and Sammy is, at least for now, the singer for Van Halen. Eddie could exert more influence over Crate than he could any other amp manufacturer, so he could pretty much dictate to them what they are going to do for him.

So, what do you guys think.

 

[Warg Master]

I'm just suprised it took this long for him to flee peavey.

 

[gproud5150]

I could be completely off base with this, but maybe he isn't going to bother with an amp for the time being. I could see Marshall possibly doing a signature amp for him, I don't think too many companies would turn him down if he asked. As for the guitars, hell, go buy a Wolfgang Special. It's the same thing. Basswood body, floyd(ish), custom humbuckers (2 of them!), and a maple/maple neck. A used one is like $500.00. Plus it doesn't have the paintjob for those that perhaps want to play their guitar in public and not get ridiculed. I was reading at another forum about amp company speculation, and one guy (who is obviously delusional) saying he'd love to see a reasonably priced custom Marshall EVH amp. Reasonbly priced!?! When people are shelling out $2600.00+ for the production run Charvel guitars. An EVH Marshall sig amp would be minimum $3000.00, head only. Guaranteed.

 

[Warg Master]

I could be completely off base with this, but maybe he isn't going to bother with an amp for the time being. I could see Marshall possibly doing a signature amp for him, I don't think too many companies would turn him down if he asked. As for the guitars, hell, go buy a Wolfgang Special. It's the same thing. Basswood body, floyd(ish), custom humbuckers (2 of them!), and a maple/maple neck. A used one is like $500.00. Plus it doesn't have the paintjob for those that perhaps want to play their guitar in public and not get ridiculed. I was reading at another forum about amp company speculation, and one guy (who is obviously delusional) saying he'd love to see a reasonably priced custom Marshall EVH amp. Reasonbly priced!?! When people are shelling out $2600.00+ for the production run Charvel guitars. An EVH Marshall sig amp would be minimum $3000.00, head only. Guaranteed.

The sad thing is there are people who will pay that for both the guitar and amp.

 

[hbucker]

...and I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!.

Peavey press release (also known as stating the obvious)

So I wonder how many weeks it will take to sink in for all those delusional Peavey faithful who've been locked in denial the last six months or so... ("What makes you think Eddie would ever leave Peavey. Peavey would say something if Ed were leaving.")

O.K. Jimi. Down Boy! Down!

Do you want to hear the side of a delusional PV faithful? I love my Wolfgangs (and my EVH) but like to think I have reasonable perspective on the whole thing too.

1. For 6 months there have been nothing but rumors on the internet about EVH leaving PV. How reliable are those kinds of rumors in general? Do you pretty much bank on every rumor you hear like this as being fact? For folks over on the PV board to be speculating and arguing over this for a while now is human nature. For people who implied PV would fold without Ed or those who moaned and beat their chests or those who thought the world was ending: I think they all need to adjust their priorities a bit. And people who wish PV would just go away because they are somehow the spawn of Satan really need to get a life.

2. From what I know and can imagine, EVH leaving PV does seem like a stupid business move for him. I've said this for the past 6 months and continue to say it. NOT because I'm crying on my Wolfgang, but becaue his amps and guitars over there were quite popular by many standards. He's losing $$$ on bankable, proven products that were established when his name meant more than it means now. PV will go on as it always has. Perhapse even better. But EVH needs to on some level, pull a rabbit out of his hat. I'm sure he'll be fine too. But his rock-stock has slid in the past few years.

3. If this board had been around in '95 when EVH departed Music Man, I can only imagine what the comments here would have been like. No, I don't have to imagine, I think they would have greatly resembled a lot of the comments that were made on the PV board in the last 6 months.

Whatever. It's all good.

p.s. I already have my Wolfgangs and never intended to buy more, so Ed leaving and the discontinuation of the Wolf won't affect me at all. Still got you Wolf Special?

 

[jongitarz]

*yawn* Eddie who?

 

[SteveB]

I'm with the Gardener..

who cares?

Never had any EVH signature gear, and never will. His best work was in the 1970's and that's 30 years ago, folks! Send flames to [email protected]

 

[hbucker]

*yawn* Eddie who?

That's probably the best way to put it.

 

[bluebullet]

its just fun to watch. its like a soap opera and people like to speculate on what will happen. on another forum i suggested that charvel will make some form of axis(wolfgang) because i dont think that there will be a long term market for striped strats. its a novelty right now, because for years the strathead charvel guys couldnt get one. they refer to the black and yellow vhll charvels from the 80's as the holy grail. charvel knows this and they are just cashing in or trying to by selling these at ridiculus prices to middle age guitar wannabes with too much money (i fall into the catagory,except for the money part.)but if these are around to long people are going to look at what they are actually getting for the money and realise that there are much better options out there. AXIS so i think the striped strats are just a warm up to the charvel wolfgang.

 

[PurpleSport]

Send flames to [email protected]

Actually, for those that haven't heard, DLR "has been" quietly moonlighting as a paramedic on the overnite shift with the EMTs here in NYC in the last several months - no joke. Read this Associated Press blurb if you don't believe me:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news...VAN_HALEN_ROCKER_HAS_NEW_JOB_AS_PARAMEDIC.asp

Some might see this as the ultimate sign of a fall from grace, after the whole Vegas act his career became. Others might see it as an extension of his thrillseeking personality, a self-serving nightly adrenaline rush.

However, to me - especially in comparison to what's happened to Ed in the last several years - I gained an ENORMOUS amount of respect for Dave after hearing about this - and for quite a while, I was among the throngs who held up the "Dave who?" signs at VH concerts and sided with the VH brothers' spin after the whole divorce.

Put simply, the man is helping out humanity rather than wallowing about and trying to squeeze blood out of a rock. A has-been? Absolutely not, in my book. Dave was the ultra cool lead singer of my fave rock band when I was in high school...and he's just regained that title again, band or not.

 

[Jimi D]

p.s. I already have my Wolfgangs and never intended to buy more, so Ed leaving and the discontinuation of the Wolf won't affect me at all. Still got you Wolf Special?

Well, I'm in the same position; I've got my Wolf Special (great workhorse guitar) and might well pick up another one day, but they only made about 50,000 of the things, so there'll be no shortage of them on Ebay in my lifetime... Anyway, I'm actually looking forward to the release of the new Carina ("cute" name ) they'll replace the Wolf with - it should be very interesting... and if EBMM don't release a setneck or neckthrough guitar at winter NAMM, I'm going to go out and buy one of the HP Signature EXPs in February - I really like those guitars...

Anyway, I don't have anything against Peavey, but I do think the way their forum seems to work is a bit myopic and sycophantic... They can come across pretty badly at times...

 

[mbgreene]

Actually, for those that haven't heard, DLR "has been" quietly moonlighting as a paramedic on the overnite shift with the EMTs here in NYC in the last several months - no joke.

Not to knock the human side of the story purp, because I agree it is a better calling than living off former fame...but

Do you think we could get him to maybe do a summer tour with Bobby Sherman?

 

[lock-ny]

I log onto the PV forum once in awhile and you cant even talk about ED leaving without someone getting nasty at you. There are tons of dilusional people on the board that were not willing to accept it and all posts about it were either flamed of deleted, the announcement of George Lynch leaving PV again was taken hard by the guys on that board, its a shame because it used to be a more open board over there and I used to really enjoy it but now you cant talk about anything negative without getting flamed. when James brown, their cheif engineer, left it was the same case, "pretend it didnt happen" - its bull, and because of it I rarely log onto the forum now because you cant even ask about any of these things without getting an attitude from a few idiots on the board who need to get a life, well thats my rant, anyway I have heard that eddie has signed on with crate to make a new EVH head -

 

[kbaim]

Personally, as someone floored by VH in 1978, I wish eddie the best.

I took up the guitar because of Jimmy Page.

Got better because of Eddie and Randy Rhoads.

And almost gave it up because of Steve Morse and Joe Satriani.

KEITH

 

[koogie2k]

Good luck Eddie. G et out a new album. I want to hear some new tunes, not see new guitars and amps. My 2 pennies.

 

[gproud5150]

Good luck Eddie. G et out a new album. I want to hear some new tunes, not see new guitars and amps. My 2 pennies.

Amen to that!!!

 

[dwf1004]

As you can see, I've moved this thread where I started the other one (it will be nonexistent in a few minutes), as I feel that while we can have discussion on it, it should not be in the Guitars forum. That should be specific for EBMM guitars as it clearly states. Not trying to show up anyone, since it was a moderator that started the thread, blah blah blah, so don't go around getting that perception. I'm just going by logistics...this is general music/gear discussion, and not particular to EBMM guitars, so we put it in the general forum.

IRC, yes, this news is "shocking" and a "revelation" that no one was aware of (yeah right), but it's done, and that's all there is to it. While I am a 5150 fan and owner, I'm more concerned about EVH getting on the straight and narrow with his health and addictions and patching it up with the other 3 and making some damn music over what he's playing now, etc. The announcement by Peavey that they are parting out EVH D) just puts an end to the speculation. (I have dibs on his hands, though...LOL!)

Let's talk about the gear of choice at a later time, but the gear will be here long after he's gone...I'd like for that time not to be anytime in the near future.

 

[hbucker]

I hear what you guys are saying about the PV forum. While I personally believe PV puts out good quality products, they folks over there tend to make them out to be the best you can find anywhere. That probably isn't true. Yet I still think they compet excellently in whatever market niche they're targeted at. And I'm quite proud of the PV gear I currently own.

As far as people there being spooks (my word derived from what I've read here), keep in mind that on a monthly basis they are subjected to trolls coming by and stating something negative about PV products that just isnt' true.

You'd laugh at some of the stories people come up with to make PV service and products look less than reputable. The most common is probably "EVH doesn't really play Wolfgangs and 5150's. His Wolves are custom made and he actually has Marshalls hidden backstage." So when someone comes along stating something like, "Lynch is leaving" or "EVH is leaving" it can easily sound to the members like someone celebrating the demise of a supposed PV success story.

Some people just hate PV and will go to any length to discredit the company. These people have no lives but that's another story. That's what causes the kneejerk response some people over there have when negative news comes their way. Even if it's true the instinct is to circle the wagons.

To be honest, I see the same thing over on the Carvin site but they are even quicker to jump into attack mode.

I'm not excusing it or saying you need to hang out over there. I'm just telling you why it happens.

 

[OrangeChannel]

That Lynch amp ain't coming out again? Damn!