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[yesandno]

I'm not necessarily defending EVH about his playing on that gig but just as a way of possible explaination. Most of his career is playing music that he wrote. Therefore, all his soloing chops is mainly geared towards, and worked out against, those progressions and the trademark VH style.
So I can see where playing up against an unfamiliar style and progressions might not work so good for him.

 

[roburado]

I'm not necessarily defending EVH about his playing on that gig but just as a way of possible explaination. Most of his career is playing music that he wrote. Therefore, all his soloing chops is mainly geared towards, and worked out against, those progressions and the trademark VH style.
So I can see where playing up against an unfamiliar style and progressions might not work so good for him.

This is something I always expected would occur with JP, but he seems to hold his own on the G3 DVD he's on. Actually, I like what he did better than what Vai or Satriani did in the jams. He also seems to smoke the Queensryche guys on the tunes they've played live together. And he does a great job on covers.

As far as EVH is concerned, I mean, didn't he reputedly do a lot of jamming along to old Clapton records? How different is that (assuming that the output was good)? Personally, I think one of his coolest solos is the one he did for "Beat It."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe we ought to give EVH and JP and anyone else who makes a living at this music stuff a little bit more credit than I would have given them.

Getting a little OT here...Take John Mayer. I think that his poppy first album was really pretty good, but, man, after his John Mayer Trio album ("Try!") and his new one "Continuum"...There's a lot more breadth and depth to his skill as a musician that I never expected. He's getting an SRV-like tone these days. He does a pretty good interpretation of Hendrix' rhythm style. I never expected any of those things from him.

Another example, Alex Skolnick. I took a few lessons from him back in the day, back when he was mostly known for playing with Testament. (Can't say it helped me much, due to my overall lack of talent ) I was floored when I walked into the lesson area and heard him chicken picking away. Another time, I heard the guy jamming to a little Miles Davis. Now, he's going off in a jazz direction. Awesome. Oh yeah...and he still plays with Testament and Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

 

[SteveB]

I'm not necessarily defending EVH about his playing on that gig but just as a way of possible explaination. Most of his career is playing music that he wrote. Therefore, all his soloing chops is mainly geared towards, and worked out against, those progressions and the trademark VH style.
So I can see where playing up against an unfamiliar style and progressions might not work so good for him.

You mean tunes like "Pretty Woman", "You Really Got Me", "You're No Good" and "Happy Trails"?




Just kidding.. !

 

[roburado]

You mean tunes like "Pretty Woman", "You Really Got Me", "You're No Good" and "Happy Trails"?




Just kidding.. !

I was trying not to bring those up.

 

[SteveB]

I was trying not to bring those up.

Haha.. I'm just pulling his leg. I love old (DLR era) VH as much as the next guy. I remember having my mind blown the first time I heard "Eruption".

 

[Big Poppa]

I think John mayer is great especially since he gave me credit on the new cd

 

[DaveB]

I think John mayer is great especially since he gave me credit on the new cd

Continuum is an amazing CD.

"Slow Dancing In A Burning Room" has the best strat tone I have ever heard - bar none.

Need to track down those Two-Rock amps as well.

Dave

 

[Big Mike]

Whatever you do, don't mention that on the gear page....LOL

 

[Psychicpet]

I think John mayer is great especially since he gave me credit on the new cd

very cool! John's CD "Try!" has got to be one of the best blues/RnB CDs to come along in a while, Pino's playing is smokin'.....tone could be better but hehehehehehe
Haven't heard Continuum yet...must get soon.

 

[GrooveHT]

Whatever you do, don't mention that on the gear page....LOL

I hear they shoot people for liking John Mayer on TGP. True story, read it on the internet

 

[beej]

Funny how Mayer gets a bad rap. I think he's an excellent songwriter.

 

[GrooveHT]

Funny how Mayer gets a bad rap. I think he's an excellent songwriter.

You know how finnicky musicians' tastes are. Flavor of the moment kind of thing. Kinda like the way some go through guitars or amps

 

[candid_x]

Need to track down those Two-Rock amps as well.

Dave

http://www.two-rock.com/ They do sound awfully good.

I like John Mayer a lot. A refreshing artist, in the true sense of artist.

 

[GWDavis28]

I think John mayer is great especially since he gave me credit on the new cd

BP really what for?

I like John Mayers stuff I saw him on Austin City Limits and it was a really good show.

Glenn |B)

 

[pauldogx]

TRY is a great cd---how could ya go wrong with Pino and Steve Jordan. Some of his songs ae gettin really great too---the 1st song on the cd rips!!!

 

[roburado]

Continuum is an amazing CD.

"Slow Dancing In A Burning Room" has the best strat tone I have ever heard - bar none.

Need to track down those Two-Rock amps as well.

Dave

Yeah. Great tone. I was going to go to a Two-Rock dealer near here, but their amp room has undergone some renovation or something. So, they asked me to give them a call in a couple of days if I want to come down and demo the amps. Maybe, this weekend.

Oh yeah...and I'm listening to Contiuum right now. I love how he's matured as a songwriter. I enjoy his lyrics a lot more now than I did back on his first album. Much better. Much more insightful.

 

[roburado]

BP really what for?

Strings. JM gives credit to EB strings, naming BP and Brian Ball.

 

[robelinda2]

Mayer is good alright, love him much more now he's doing the strat thing, and not the teen girl songs thing, but hey he had to pay the bills.

 

[lenny]

Mayer is good alright, love him much more now he's doing the strat thing, and not the teen girl songs thing, but hey he had to pay the bills.

hey bro i agree.....
.........but when u consider a songwriter writes about experiences ..........."ROOM FOR SQAURES" is just that and if you listen to the playing on that album it's amazing ...well beyond his years at that time...........the lyrics YES are about the usual teenage stuff because he WAS a teenager when he wrote that stuff BUT again listen to the guitar work UNREAL STUFF he is an amazing Talent and i for 1 am not ashamed to stand tall and proclaim it hahahaha I LIKE JOHN MAYER!!!!! and when my band played "body is a wonderland " the house went nuts !!! and when the kids would come into the store and here me playing it on the acoustic they would always come over and pic my brain as to how i was gettin that "SOUND" hahaha

 

[yesandno]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
You mean tunes like "Pretty Woman", "You Really Got Me", "You're No Good" and "Happy Trails"?

I was trying not to bring those up.

Yeah, that stuff slipped my mind ( I like a lot of VH, its just that I'm not into them to the point of buying their records and listening to them a lot)

But I hope you know what I was driving at. Those songs he made his own. I'm just thinkin' that of all these players, eddies style seems more "insular" to the style of his band.
I also, though, have absolutely no idea what kind of progressions and style was being laid down by the other guitarists.
Oh well.