SAtallion delayed new JP 13 coming

[shredding]

MesaVox (Kevin),
I couldn't say it better myself. Especially "We're spoiled. How many people know the owner of other companies like we do BP?"

 

[morsecode]

It looks intriguing and I'm sure it is going to be great but why is there not even basic dotted inlays at the 12th fret? Yes it is cosmetic but it just doesn't look right and seems like either a pretty easy detail to address or was purposely left out for some reason.

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

Everyone has an opinion for sure but sometimes its best to hold off the keyboard. Check it out and live with the idea for a bit then respond, especially if your not sure what you think......

I obviously wouldn't be able to give feedback on playability but, aesthetics is a big consideration for myself when purchasing a guitar. In this case the inlay was not changed in favor of MY PERSONAL tastes. Which is okay. Inlay sure as hell doesn't make a guitar play any better or worse.

If I had to choose which guitar is want next going by aesthetics I'd have to say the JPXI will be my next guitar. That is of course a choice ill have to reconsider once the Majesty is released. Very excited about that name change as I'm the biggest Dream Theater fan you'll ever meet.

Majesty was the original name of the band prior to becoming Dream Theater.

I wonder if the first song JP plays on the new Majesty guitar will be YTSE JAM!

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

+1. The Stallion was the main reason to look forward to this year's NAMM show. so sad....

+1

I know that feel bro, I know that feel.

 

[bdtunn]

I think it's cool to be able to get such diversity in a pro model guitar. If you look at anyone else's line it's pretty much just the same guitar in different colours. Having these options makes it more personal to the taste's of the buying public. I personally love the new spec. Now if I only had these options in lefties I'd be broke and divorced.

 

[Lax]

BP, it would be sad we suffer from trolling, especially for people from europe and further, we just can't meet and greet, so this forum i.e. is one of the only sources of informations.

I love the fact that the JP serie is evolving to JP's needs, there are many variations of the guitar with subtle differences and it's too expensive to just collect them (like each would be meant to do different things).

I am changing my JP6s to a JP12 in the near future for guitars aging reasons and would have been frustrated if every year the previous was considered "good for trash" by people !

All JP are a good choice, we can be pointy for necks, finish etc...But we can find happiness in any !

Again, I appreciate the way JPs are evolving, and in the meantime am in a rush to see the majesty

 

[SpeakingToStone]

I don't jump in here often, but I read many posts and just have to say thanks to all of you who keep this forum focused, classy, informative, and friendly. It's amazing how reading a single post by a single forumite who makes an off-handed judgement (ie. The JP 13 sucks) can get us all so angry. But it IS infuriating. Why? Because EB/MM is a unique breed that has not lost its (or our) need for curiosity, exploration, and experimentation. I mean this. This is not just about music: it is about what we need in our lives. When one person (I'll refrain from using judgmental terms, even though I'd like to) makes such a brash comment about someone else's hard work, it sucks the air out of the project and the community.

BP, Petrucci, and everyone else involved on these instruments are trying to make themselves and US happy, excited, engaged, inspired. This is a gift. Even if we don't like what they come up with, I hope that we can learn to treat their endeavors with the respect they deserve. Since 2001 I have owned over 100 JP models. I'm not rich or a collector. I live like a pauper and spend every cent I make on guitars and gear (perhaps this is why I'm single). I only keep 2 or 3 at a time and then sell them, get new ones, etc. I do this because I love to see the different finishes, play the different neck and body materials, test the new tonal variations available, etc.

Despite our personal tastes, let's support great, well-meaning work. Bottom line, every single JP I have owned has inspired me to write new music. What more can I possibly ask for from a guitar company?

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

I don't jump in here often, but I read many posts and just have to say thanks to all of you who keep this forum focused, classy, informative, and friendly. It's amazing how reading a single post by a single forumite who makes an off-handed judgement (ie. The JP 13 sucks) can get us all so angry. But it IS infuriating. Why? Because EB/MM is a unique breed that has not lost its (or our) need for curiosity, exploration, and experimentation. I mean this. This is not just about music: it is about what we need in our lives. When one person (I'll refrain from using judgmental terms, even though I'd like to) makes such a brash comment about someone else's hard work, it sucks the air out of the project and the community.

BP, Petrucci, and everyone else involved on these instruments are trying to make themselves and US happy, excited, engaged, inspired. This is a gift. Even if we don't like what they come up with, I hope that we can learn to treat their endeavors with the respect they deserve. Since 2001 I have owned over 100 JP models. I'm not rich or a collector. I live like a pauper and spend every cent I make on guitars and gear (perhaps this is why I'm single). I only keep 2 or 3 at a time and then sell them, get new ones, etc. I do this because I love to see the different finishes, play the different neck and body materials, test the new tonal variations available, etc.

Despite our personal tastes, let's support great, well-meaning work. Bottom line, every single JP I have owned has inspired me to write new music. What more can I possibly ask for from a guitar company?

Well said! I agree on all accounts. Is one of your guitars your first guitar?

 

[Luc]

This is by far and away and without a shadow of doubt the weirdest thread of the past few months IMO...who are we to judge or determine the product line of Sterling and co.? Bet the JP13 will be a big seller.

 

[SpeakingToStone]

Thanks, and no. I played Ibanez, PRS, Parker, and Brian Moore for years. I really liked the EB/MM JPs when they came out but really fell in love with the BFRs, especially the Koas. Now, I have an 11 7-string and a JP BFR 2012 PDN quilt. I'm looking for one or two more, probably a 13 and a koa.

Side note: does anyone know if the koas will remain island burst or if another finish may be offered? I'd love to see them available in the original finish for a year or two. I would kill for a seven string version in tobacco (or whatever that original brown burst was called).

 

[mtrejo]

Sheesh, some people really can't stand the wait. The delay of the Majesty has overshadowed the fact that there will be two new JP models. The 13 happens to be ready sooner and when everything is ready, the Majesty will debut. 2 JP models, that's really the big picture here.

From a designers perspective, it's nice to change things up, like the shield inlay and backplate. Who wants to kick out the same old design. Change is good.

 

[mikeller]

Fully support what MM does...good decision not to rush!!!! Best to all

 

[beej]

Having been here a long time ... I have to say that it's always been a thrill to get product updates and insights into what's happening in R&D. So thanks Sterling for continuing to share!

And it's worth pointing out to some that the point of sharing is to keep us in the loop - it's not to solicit feedback (whether or not you feel it's constructive). As a wise man once told me, "sit back and enjoy the show"

 

[Malmucci]

Bold statement, have you played it? Oh, wait..

I think it's a great idea to introduce the boost function to the JP, it seems just the right guitar for that.
Looking forward to the NAMM reports and pics! Especially interested in the Armada.

Are you kidding me? I have not played the JP13, but it's basically just like my other JP6's and JP7s. Pretty much like the JPXI that I own too. Do you really mean a new JP guitar is just a new color and different radius? That sucks. I don't think they should make new "models" all the time. A new color, sure.

 

[dkannen]

Are you kidding me? I have not played the JP13, but it's basically just like my other JP6's and JP7s. Pretty much like the JPXI that I own too. Do you really mean a new JP guitar is just a new color and different radius? That sucks. I don't think they should make new "models" all the time. A new color, sure.

Nobody is forcing you to buy this guitar, dude.

I hate to fuel the fire of debate, but it's a real same that some people immediately blast something that a such a reputable company, on their own, has decided to openly share to their loyal fans.

As beej says, the point of sharing is to keep us in the loop.

Every year around NAMM, consistently as long as I have been a member of this forum, someone spams the hate as soon as a new product is previewed. So what does that lead to? Less previews in the future, ruining it for all of the people who are curious to see the new EBMM guitars. Who knows, maybe in the future they'll even decide against releasing new models thanks to this kind of attitude. Now THAT would truly be a shame. Especially for the people like me who love seeing new models and updates every year.

Anyway, can't wait to see the Majesty, and I think the JP13 looks great. Silver is a color that really works on the JP line!

 

[Malmucci]

Here is a man with vision or super powers...hasnt held it seen it played it....but can be this aggressive and rude. This is why there aren't more sneak peaks anymore.

Seriously? I love the JP pickups, body and the contour, and the over feel of this instrument that you and JP created. I have bought two JP6, two JP7, one JPXI and a Steve Morse Y2D from your company. I think it's just a shame to hype a "new model" when it basically is the exact same guitar with a different radius and color. The preamp is something Petrucci won't use for sure, it's just something added to this model to make people buy it. I know teenagers who have saved all their money to being able to buy a JP signature model and are so proud when they finally get to have one of their own. And then a year later there's a new model introduced. I just think that is wrong. I know you guys are making tons of money that way, but for many of us that sucks.

I have played so many of your guitars, I own 6 of them right now. Don't you think I'm entitled to have an opinion on this? If you think I'm way off wrong then you should try to convince me instead of trying to make a fool out of me. There's so many different models out there now with the JP name, it's really starting to get crazy.

I'm looking forward to your reply.

 

[dkannen]

I know teenagers who have saved all their money to being able to buy a JP signature model and are so proud when they finally get to have one of their own. And then a year later there's a new model introduced. I just think that is wrong. I know you guys are making tons of money that way, but for many of us that sucks.

The great thing about guitars is that it's not like a computer or iphone, as soon as the new model is released, it doesn't make the previous models obsolete!

 

[Malmucci]

The great thing about guitars is that it's not like a computer or iphone, as soon as the new model is released, it doesn't make the previous models obsolete!

I agree. I think it's ok, but it is all about the $$$. People are talking about "the JP line is evolving" etc... That's bull****. JP's getting stuff handed to him. Tries it. Says yes or no. That's not really evolving if you ask me.

 

[dkannen]

I agree. I think it's ok, but it is all about the $$$. People are talking about "the JP line is evolving" etc... That's bull****. JP's getting stuff handed to him. Tries it. Says yes or no. That's not really evolving if you ask me.

But how do you know that for sure? From the perspective of someone who has been around these forms for a few years now, as far as I can tell, it's 100% about the instrument, the customers and the artists. Not the $$.

 

[ohdamnitsdevin]

The great thing about guitars is that it's not like a computer or iphone, as soon as the new model is released, it doesn't make the previous models obsolete!

I guess that would depend on the mindset of the buyer. Many apple products are not obsolete just because they're older. My iPhone 3G does damn near everything my iPhone 5 does. Many people buy things to portray a certain status in society. These are very high end, high quality guitars and are known as such. I love my JPX to death but I do feel its old now... Not obsolete. The JPXI came out literally 3 months after I purchased it and I was bummed. But, as I've grown as a player I'm not concerned so much about the looks of the guitar anymore. I guess I've matured in that sense and as I've stated, although there's a JP 12 and now 13 on the market I still feel I will prefer the JP 11. I wish there was opportunity for me to try them all for final say.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, I see the value in both trains of thought.

In closing, the bottom line is if they build it, they will come. As long as BP and JP continue to put their heart and soul into each reiteration of the guitar people will buy them. Each guitar offers something different and though some may find some of the changes minuscule you have to remember:

These are for John. He records in a studio with the best equipment money can buy. Any change to any guitar he plays will be very noticeable when it makes it to the album.