So I've got this guitar . . .

[Jack FFR1846]

Glenn, Would you want to do some trading to mix things up? I'm not playing much anymore and have considered selling off almost everything and have reduced from 15 guitars to (I think) 7 now....with 3 on craigslist. Anyways, I have the spaceball 3000, MM90 trans blue ASS, black cherry burst al SSS and the sublhouette, that has your old pickups and silent circuit in it. I've got other guitars as well. PM me if you think you might be interested.

Don't repaint this. I've repainted a ton of guitars over the last 3 years as a hobby. It's fine to do on $250 CL guitars that you can buy every week. Not on a 20th.

 

[MikeVt]

Glenn...although I've never been a fan of the caramel, that top is just too unique to cover up. If you're set on a solid color, then I have to painfully agree with the others....sell it even if you have to take more of a loss. Now......if you were talking about a TRANS blue, purple or black, I'd probably agree with the refinish...because that could be cool...but then you'd have sunk even more into it and it still wouldn't be what you want.

FWIW, I understand how you feel. My blue dawn JP is going up for sale but I'm dragging my feet because I know the loss is going to be painful. In the end though, it will be better to have it out of the closet, and at least most of the cash in my pocket. They just don't appreciate like the old days anymore, no matter how good they are. I say bite the bullet and take what you can get for it.

Just my 2 cents...
Mike

 

[jbert]

Personally I feel like it's better to take ok money for something I'm not using, vs holding out for great money and not getting it at all.

My thoughts exactly. I've seen your listing for years now and kept wondering why you didn't just lower the price or ask for offers.

 

[Spudmurphy]

My thoughts exactly. I've seen your listing for years now and kept wondering why you didn't just lower the price or ask for offers.

However, the uniqueness of the guitar I think justified the initial asking price, and it seemed pertinant to hold out?- some members come and go and often I've seen the comment "Man I missed that ... I should have gone for that .... If it was still available I'd be all over it like a rash" ... etc

The current second hand market is a lot different to the halcyon days of a decade or so ago, and it would find the market value – albeit a lot lower than was expected.

Hang on to it if you can – it will appreciate I am sure?

 

[kbaim]

Hi Glenn.
Just heard the Stones song "PAINT IT BLACK on XM.
Hope this helps.

 

[wheres my pick?]

If it's a "keeper" for you, do whatever will make you like it most. If you are not in love with it (which seems to be the case) sell it, even 1500 would be a compeitive price. If you do end up painting it go for purple dye, purple top and maple board is a great combo.

 

[francric]

I agree with what some have said. What is it about the guitar that you don't like? The looks, playability or something else? If you decide to paint, paint it and don't worry about the limited edition crap. But make sure that if you paint it, that you will love it and want to keep it. Not many sparkly fans out there if you decide to sell later. If your not sure, then sell that sucker or hold on to it. The one thing I don't agree with, is to let it go cheaper. Sell it for what YOU are willing to sell it for. Of course, that only holds true if you are not in need of money or can't stand to see the guitar. But if you can be patient and wait till the right buyer comes along, then do that. I have been on both sides. Some I let go because they just bug the crap out of me and some I hold onto for the right price even if it takes a long, long while. Only you can answer those questions. Maybe a trade of equal value or a guitar plus cash might do the trick. Your guitar, do what you want to do with it. Me I would paint that sucker a bright pink sparkle and be happy....

 

[yan12]

you don't have to really paint it either. You can sand the top layer off, paint or paint a graphic, then recoat the top with clear so the artwork won't get worn off but it can be removed. I have done it numerous times and it is sandwiched between the clear.
My no. 1 is a rosewood ass and we called it "bundy" because my bass player said it looked like 1970's panneling. Now it is the leadslinger. I bought the guitar for the sound. I don't go anywhere without it and it is the best sounding ebmm I have owned out of at least 25 ebmm axes...Every stage I get up on I get folks asking me what I step on or what pedal gives the guitar that tone. My hands and straight into a great tube amp, that's it. They are all great but this one has that "it" factor for me.
I went with a western theme on mine but the sky is the limit. If guitar plays and reacts the way you want it to, don't sell it. Make it look like you want but super great guitars you can bond with are rare. My guess is you are just not that bonded with it so let it go because changing the look won't make it come alive.

 

[kestrou]

Van12,

Is that Clint Eastwood in the profile on the lower right? Sweet!!!

Kevin

 

[GWDavis28]

Wow, holy responses , thanx all. Even after reading this thread I'm still at an impasse as to what it is I want to do. As many know, I can barely play, I try, but I truly do suck at it. I currently, have 5 guitars, in a small house, I guess 4 in my mind seems to be an ideal number for me. I like them all, 20th included, I prefer the others more though. Don't get me wrong I like the 20th, there is nothing wrong with this guitar at all, this thing is like new.

Many have said, if you don't like it, sell it even at a loss. Others have said, don't paint it, otherwise it will loss it's appeal as a collectable. But for the length of time it's been for sale, it holds no interest to anyone, it seems. They don't seem to hold their value as well as they did and in the past, and yah Spud I know it's a buyers market, but you think with it's uniqueness this one might have been different, but alas no.

I never buy guitars because they are collectable, I buy them because I like them or I like something about them. Each one of my guitars seems to have a unique story, which I remember whenever I use them. The 20th story was a simple one, I bought it on a whim, caught up in the frenzy when they first came out. I saw it on the Make N Music website and have a few bucks burning a hole in my pocket and leap at it, I beat out another forumite by about an hour in purchasing it.

For me to let the 20th go at current rates, which seems to be like $1000-1200, that's almost 1/2 what I paid for it, I'd rather keep it at that point. I think from a sales point of view, I've gone as low as I can go in my mind, I'm not a man of major means, and to take a huge loss on this, I'll keep it.

Sterling always says, they make tools for musicians, hahahaha, don't know if I qualify there or not. A very few have said, make it my own. I guess by heading down this road I'm very much considering this.

This isn't something I've taken lightly at all, I've been pondering this for sometime, and have a feeling I will be for a while longer.

Keith (Sweat), thanx for the offer, I knew you were kind of joking, I've got 2 Silo Specials, a 3rd is not something I'm really interested in at this time. Kbaim, nice man, I love that song. Tollie, yah man, I was looking at Marty Bells website, that's where I got the idea in the first place. I'm thinking it would be around $500, but I haven't completely looked into it.

To everyone else, thanx for your inputs, they are truly appreciated. Glenn |B)

 

[paranoid70]

My 20th Silhouette is my main player, it's such a great guitar. In fact I think it's the best guitar EBMM ever designed. Who cares about the top really. The sound and play-ability is what really matters.

But if it's not for you, it's not for you. Don't paint over it - I really don't see how you would like the guitar any more.

My recommendation is either grow to love it, or bite the bullet and sell it at a significant loss. I'd go with the first choice.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Ok so a refin is like $500 (we talked about it Greg)

just a thought - if you did go down that route, then have a few more coats of laquer sprayed on first, then a topcoat.
If you wanted to get back to the original at any time, you could restore it, like I did with my JP6 when I sanded the white off back to it's MD original colour?

 

[pentaspan]

don't do it.

 

[Slater]

Why not knock the cost of a refin off of your asking price and see if it sells? It would be the same net loss financially. Although, you will have to find a new guitar to your liking within the budget of the new lower selling price...

 

[Lou]

Since you are local and this guitar has piezo, if you wanna show it some love, bring it to my next gig and I'll play it.

 

[GWDavis28]

Spud, I had thought along those lines, thanx very much for your inputs man.

Lou, hahahaha, you have an great sense of humor man, always good to see you, if your in the Marlboro area let me know.

Equating the paint cost to lowering the price doesn't seem like the right way to go, since if I painted it, no matter what the price it wouldn't sell and more or less I'd be keeping it. I've tried a few trade options with people, but nothing panned out.

Thanx, Glenn |B)

 

[Stratty316]

what are you looking for in a trade?

 

[GWDavis28]

Stratty, really not sure, I'd prefer to sell it, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I'm not really a fan of the Axis or the Morse. I've had a JP in the past, not my cup of tea either. I've got 2 Silo Specials right now, so I'm all set there (SSS and SSH). I've got the AL's (HH and MM90's). I love the AL's, and of course there is that one Dargie AL MM90's hardtail, but I've talked to the owner numerous times and know he's not willing to part with it and I get that. I think really it would depend on what someone was considering.

Glenn |B)

 

[Stratty316]

That's a tough one... Why don't you call Pete or one of the other dealers here and try and work something out for a gold roller? Pete has a wicked PDN Neptune Blue and prob some other surprises in his vault.

I'd love to have your 20th but just can't afford it right now.

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[GWDavis28]

That's a tough one... Why don't you call Pete or one of the other dealers here and try and work something out for a gold roller? Pete has a wicked PDN Neptune Blue and prob some other surprises in his vault.

I'd love to have your 20th but just can't afford it right now.

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Stratty, Not a fan of gold at all unless it's in the form of bullion, , but thanx. I really don't need another guitar, I barely have time to play the ones that I have between, work and family. I've talked to Pete before in the past, I'll just hang on to it for now and see what the future holds.

I'm sure I'll still have it if you ever change your mind.

Thanx, Glenn |B)