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I love the 7 string format but the 8 is a little too far.
I think what puts alot of people off is that the 7 string has been taken up by mostly heavy metal/death metal bands that are really heavy. Its looked upon as a "chugga chugga" guitar. Played cleanly they sound beautiful when you use the notes on the extra B in chords, anyone can just play a D or B and thrash it out.
It would be nice to see a decent player take up the 7 or 8 string and make some decent original music with it.
 

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I had sold all my 'other' guitars to fund new balls but found myself purchasing a new 2006 Ibanez Paul Gilbert Model.....its one of the best I've played. Much better than my 2003 Ibanez Jem 7VWH Steve Vai Model...

But gotta agree with Jeffrey in that they are Mass produced instruments but disagree in that there is great attention to detail, especially on the US Prestige Custom models and ther likes of the Jem Models....
 

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The Paul Gilbert is nice, i'd buy one but it dont have a locking trem on.
Ibanez maple necks are really nice, no matter how much you sweat on em, they dont get sticky although ive found this with my Stingray.
 

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Guys, without wanting to sound like a pain in the a$$, I didn't intend this to be a discussion on the pro's and con's of Ibanez. They make decent guitars, and some of the worlds best players use them.

Now, can we get back to talking about the 8 string idea? :p
 

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i sold my 90th Anniversary JEM to buy my Luke, what a good move that was!!!! Plus i had change left over to buy my Fender Deville amp. I havent missed the JEM one bit, crappy neck feel ( WAY too thin ) and sounded thin. The finish was ultra cool though, that froxen metalic thing, stunning. I have a JS100, JS1000, several 80's roadstars, all quality guitars, and they all beat Fender into the ground. But then most brands do, quite easily.
 

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If someone can come up with original ideas on an 8 string then it may catch on. Otherwise it will just be another fad that metal heads may use every once in a blue moon.
It would need an extended scale length which would put people off. Spares would be an issue. Just a fad i think.
 

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yeah it would be interesting. But I am a bit afraid that 8th string played clean wouldn't sound that great. It's very low already on the 7th string
 

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If they do a long scale it will tighten the lower strings up a little. I dunno, personnaly i dont think it will catch on, worth a try and nice one for having a go at it.
 

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Although I would have no use for an 8 string (i have a hard enough time with the 6 as it is...;) ), I have heard a player use an 8 string that was not in a death/heavy metal band. Rusty Cooley. I am not a huge fan of his playing....he is blazingly fast, but I personally get bored with it.

On the 7 string...JP and Paul Gilbert have both used them quite tastefully.

I am not sure if an 8 will catch on or not....but there is obviously a market, however very small IMHO, that caused them to make the 8 string. Sometimes you have to take a chance I guess and who am I to tell them how to run their business.
 

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The only 8 string player ive seen who is original is charlie hunter, but his 8 string is a fanned fret guitar with 3 bass strings and 5 standard guitar strings. Good player but its a bit gimmicky.
 

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Why cant you guys stay on topic and when you dont how come you attack the maturity level of someone who wants to. Puppies thought a topic regarding a competing brand and an eight string would get deleted. NEVER.... a thread of people bashing/praising a competeing manufacturer on our bandwidth..ALWAYS>>.been beat to death.

I HATE brand bashing. it is bad Karma and all of that other hippie stuff. THe world needs lots of sucessful guitar brands for innovati0on to flourish and provide additional choices for the players and the multitude of genres out there.

I guess the thing to keep in mind is that nobody on a brand specific forum really gives s rats ass what you think of another brand. It kind of goes with the territory.
 

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Not being funny but when i keep hearing "Your on the wrong forum", theres no need for it. Read through the thread and it seems to me as though we are having an adult conversation until someone comes in and takes a dig. Okay so it aint an Ibanez forum and its gone OT at times but im not gonna lose sleep over it.
 

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Well, I own 2 Ibby axes - one is a cheap POS and the other is a VERY nice ltd edition Japanese 7-string... as you may well have gathered, I have nothing against Ibanez - they have done a lot of great things for extended range guitars and I see the new 8-string as an extension of their dedication to that niche.

I'm guessing Ibanez is going for a 30" scale, to keep the tension of that low F# string at a sane level. Still, a F# tuned 8-string would be of absolutely no interest to me - it is simply too low to make any real sense (I prefer the traditional approach where the guitar handles the midrange and let the bass take care of the lowend). Had the guitar offered a low B and high A, I might have been tempted... but the plausibly very long scale makes a high A imposible and thus the guitar uninteresting to me.

Cheers

Eske
 
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I HATE brand bashing. it is bad Karma and all of that other hippie stuff. THe world needs lots of sucessful guitar brands for innovati0on to flourish and provide additional choices for the players and the multitude of genres out there.


Thank you, Big Poppa! I hate brand bashing, too (except when it's Gibson :D )... all joking aside, I am a guitar enthusiast and not a brand enthusiast. Nothing wrong with having a variety of great guitars from various manufacturers the last time I checked.

As far as 8 stringers go, I have never understood the whole low tuned thing anyways, and it would be one thing if these players were actually tuning their 7 stringers to standard E, but they end up dropping them several whole steps down to C or lower on top of having the additional low B string.

Now with an 8 string guitar I assume these kids are going to go even lower now, and it just doesn't make sense to me. I guess I'm getting old. :D I agree with the Baritone argument... why not just buy a Silo bass and be done with it?

It's funny how some of the heaviest (and scariest) metal music that was recorded "back in the day" was in standard E and that music still holds it's own today (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and so on). The only thing these lower tunings do is make the guitar riff sound like a bunch of farts, which doesn't really add much excitement if you ask me. ;)

Ryan
 

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I had a pre-Artcore semi-hollow 335-esque Ibanez, which I used in a country band I was gigging with. It was outstanding in every way, but just not my thing anymore, having played a Gib 330 for so long. But it was a really nice axe.
 

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8 strings: Conklin leads the way here IMO. If I were to buy one (and I'd love to), it's what I'd buy.

Calling Charlie Hunter "gimmicky" is just flatly ignorant, sorry. :rolleyes:

Signing up on an Ernie Ball/Music Man forum with the name 'Ibanez' in your nick, talking big about Ibanez guitars and then getting upset when people don't share your opinion (and calling them immature) is why this thread ended up how it did.

Look to yourself for a bit of maturity before accusing others for lacking it. ;)
 
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