We seriously need a EBMM custom shop

[NorM]

you are a rabid bunch of EB/MM fans.

Said the dog with the red eyes
Count me in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[phatduckk]

id be super stoked if there was a trans black finish ... but i have no "custom" needs

 

[fogman]

It's funny how much I have to say.......because I don't even own one yet!!!!

But soon I can't wait!!!!!

 

[Raz]

It's funny how much I have to say.......because I don't even onw one yet!!!!

But soon I can't wait!!!!!

Hahahaha we still love ya!

 

[brentrocks]

There are 8 bazillion different combinations of our guitars that you can order. Thats not enough huh?

A wise man(Big Poppa) once said a guitar mfg company has a custom shop because their regular line sucks( not an exact quote, but it was something like that)

i agree with that!!!

 

[mesavox]

Obviously endorsed artists can get those one offs that they need. If someone was a pretty major act, not major label, but touring the world as either a hired gun, or maybe on a minor label but still very busy, could he order a one off based on serious need for his situation? Say he wants a bari JPM, or a Silo with the JPM arm scoop, or whatever he's just struggling with, but doesn't want to buy another brand's guitar because he only buys MM?

I know a custom shop would be a major pain but does a pro absolutely have to compromise on his special need or are there times that a one off could be built for someone who needs it, and doesn't just want to say he has something MM doesn't really make?

I agree that custom shop too much means better quality than you can get normally. It should mean, same great build quality as all our stuff, with some different things done hardware, and design wise that we don't offer mass produced.

I also don't consider one brand, or model of humbucker change from the regular brand and model of humbucker. It's more like, P90s instead of humbucker, no trem instead of trem (I would love to have a non trem, string through the back JPM w/ Piezo for instance), etc.

You can buy a custom shop strat that has identical design to a Delux strat. The difference would be a better fret job, finish, and more specific attentiont to wood quality. That's shouldn't be custom shop. It should be the high end, lower production number line. This is true of Ibanez. The Prestige line and the even higher J Custom line. Called custom, but specific production models are released rather than it being a regular RG with better wood that you only ordered because that regular RG wasn't good enough for you. If you get a J Custom that is custom(you can't in the US without going to Japan fisrt lol), it's the same quality leval of the regular run J Customs. Ibanez has thier problems of course, but that's one of the few examples I can think of where what most people call custom shop, they make it a regular run model line.

In this instance, MM doesn't have any other model line leval than what they have. The Sub would be the only possible exception, but the only thing about it is that it isn't appointed cosmetically as much. Same wood pile. Sure, it's a less expensive paint, but it's still done with the same quality leval as the more expensive paint. So a custom shop as I would see it would be just switching things around. Keeping quality up though, if any leval of this concept would ever even be possible, would dictate very very limited numbers, and only to people who can show a legitimate need. Bedroom noodling isn't a legit need. lol

 

[koogie2k]

Of course, we would all love to have a custom shop. I would love to have a guitar built the way I want, but, let's look at something.

We buy the same guitars designed with the artist (like Petrucci and Morse) help and thoughts about what the axe should be. Like Morse now getting the final tweaks in. To me, that is custom. You are getting the same axe that Petrucci plays or that Morse plays. A one off (Petrucci double neck) is rare and really should not be made available to us all. Production costs alone would drag the EB company down to a crawl. If you order a guitar (as I have) it takes several months to get. Why, it is being made for you with the options you select that are available with that guitar.

I would love a string through Pet w/piezo. But, that is not an option right now. To make it so, would be another process in the guitar manufacturing that would slow things down a bit. So, we either, mod them ourselves or we have to be content with all the GREAT options available and pick and choose between them.

Sparkle paint. I love 'em. However, they did not sell well. Take away the candy and all of a sudden we cry. I did and still do.......but, if you want the sparkle paint, get it done somewhere else. It is not a difficult thing to do.

EBMM has to go where the sell is. Plain and simple. If the sparkle does not sell, it costs EB money. They have to sell and make money in order to keep bringing us OUR guitars on a yearly basis. The people on this forum (all cool and great) have several guitars made by EBMM. We alone cannot keep them afloat as much as we try....lol. They (EBMM) have to attract more players to continue to produce guitars. The quality has been stated millions of time.....NO ONE SELLS A PRODUCTION AXE LIKE ERNIE BALL MUSICMAN!!! Not many custom high end guitars are of the quality of an EBMM either.

Custom shop? Sure, we would love it. Needed? No. If you make these awesome guitars any better, they would play themselves and we wouldn't have to practice anymore.....what fun if that? The challenge would be gone.

Thanks to all at EBMM for making truly great guitars. No one can touch you!

 

[Big Poppa]

thanks Koogie

As far as custom stuff we will make whatever our signature artists want. We cannot do this for everyone or the guitars would cost a bundle and we would be down the road.I've said before that harvard biz guys would scratch their head at the choikces we offer as it is. For a company that makes about 320 instruments a week ,50,000 choices should get it done.

When you ask for a Petrucci carve on the top for a silo we couldn't do that as this was something John, Dudley and I designed exclusively for him.

 

[Raz]

thanks Koogie

As far as custom stuff we will make whatever our signature artists want. We cannot do this for everyone or the guitars would cost a bundle and we would be down the road.I've said before that harvard biz guys would scratch their head at the choikces we offer as it is. For a company that makes about 320 instruments a week ,50,000 choices should get it done.

When you ask for a Petrucci carve on the top for a silo we couldn't do that as this was something John, Dudley and I designed exclusively for him.

Looks like I'll have to become a signed artist then

 

[Pundix]

Looks like I'll have to become a signed artist then

That shouldn't be hard to do Raz.. I think the only prerequsite is that you play better than God or something like that... A few gold or platnum albums would probably help too.

 

[Big Poppa]

Raz
I have considered your request for signature artist status. After careful and exhausting review I have determined that the next opening for a Canadian guitarist is 2041. Please mark this date in your forward planner and supply us with your most current media kit at thart time.

thanks for you interest with EBMM.

Big poppa

 

[ernie1966]

Raz
I have considered your request for signature artist status. After careful and exhausting review I have determined that the next opening for a Canadian guitarist is 2041. Please mark this date in your forward planner and supply us with your most current media kit at thart time.

thanks for you interest with EBMM.

Big poppa

There you go Raz, you just hit the big time!! I think the 36 years will give you enough practice time under your belt to make you worthy of an EBMM signature guitar with your name on the headstock!!

 

[Raz]

Raz
I have considered your request for signature artist status. After careful and exhausting review I have determined that the next opening for a Canadian guitarist is 2041. Please mark this date in your forward planner and supply us with your most current media kit at thart time.

thanks for you interest with EBMM.

Big poppa

Wow, this is great news...looking forward to it...I know you and the rest of the staff at EBMM will not be dissapointed I guess I should have a scale or two learned by then!

 

[Eddie Van Halen]

Ernie Ball sells better quality instruments for a lower price than any other company out there. Gibsons (even their normal lines) are FAR too over-priced for the quality, and Fender...well...theyre trying.

Ernie Ball could sell their guitars for a whole lot more and it would still be worth every penny...but please dont

 

[puppiesonacid]

Sorry guys, didnt mean to cause such an uproar. I completely and fully undertand the buisness and productivity side of it all and how a custom shop would be a total drag on the production flow. i was just dreaming out loud, maybe i shouldnt have... I dont want to seem like i am dissatisfied with what ernie ball offers, b/c i think that they do offer better bang and quality for the buck than any other guitar manufacturer out there. i dont want to play anybody else's guitars b/c i have the best company to go to when i want a new guitar.

There is DEFINETLY custom shop quality in every ernie ball guitar, even in the SUB1 line and thats amazing. I waited THREE YEARS before I could get my petrucci. I played one every time i went to the house of guitars in Rochester NY, knowing that God allowed petrucci to get with this company and make a guitar that suited me and so many other players so well. (sounds nuts but seriously, that little arm cradle scoop is so critical to my posture and picking, i get cramped up now when i play a guitar without one.)

The tremolo system on the Petrucci is so perfect, floating but not in the way, steady tuning stability once the strings are stretched. Whenever i go to a store and try an amp out or somthing i always ALWAYS grab an EB guitar, usually the sub ones and i trust EB's guitars way more than anyone elses in aiding me in deciding on what gear will compliment my guitar's sound the best, if that makes sense.

My desire for modded petrucci guitars are meant soley as a compliment than a criticism. i love them, i love thier design concepts and hardware, playbility and great asthetics. In my mind to have a sillohette EBJPM or a Morse routed EBJPM is to further the creative process and enable me to achieve completely different tones while being able to still enjoy the much loved and appreciated comfort of my "home" guitar, you know?

I'll just have to buy a sillo bass and another petrucci and swap the necks hahaha. maybe ill go with the OLP stuff first for my experiment and then move on the the real deal.

I dream of having thousands of ernie ball guitars !!! again, many apologies.


God bless,

Tony

 

[bluebullet]

i would like to get on the waiting list for the raz sig model maybe i can have the money saved by 2041.

 

[SteveB]

i would like to get on the waiting list for the raz sig model maybe i can have the money saved by 2041.

It will be at least that long before we can read Raz's signature.

 

[Raz]

Raz is prepping for that day...oh ye of little faith!

 

[SteveB]

Raz is prepping for that day...oh ye of little faith!

Better hurry, or you'll be late...

Hey... I've heard that somewhere before!

 

[phatduckk]

Dear ebmm forum people,

Please stop making me want more guitars!

Thank you,
Arin
aka phatduckk