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DavidOfOz

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...Although I'm going to stop here because it seems that this "forum" is so one sided that it's about to tilt over. While I'm sure a passion for music is present, surpassing that appears to be a passion for personal possesions.
Everone has missed the point as their focus is firmly their next aquisition.
It's been said you're not hurting anyone, ok, but you're sure not helping anyone either. Just pretty much accumlating more upon more flight cases filled with sparkly painted wood...

Sam, I think it is you who has missed the point. We get what you’re saying: the implication has been clear to begin with. You equate Ernie’s collection with wealth/materialism, and wealth with greed/selfishness. You have implied that Ernie should spend his money on helping others rather than increasing his collection.

The problem is, in making that point, you have made an uniformed assumption that Ernie doesn’t help others. That’s a judgement, and an unfair one at that. And you have offended people by making that judgement. You see this as a one-sided “discussion”. Members of this forum see it as an unprovoked/unfair/unnecessary/uninformed attack on Ernie. This forum is for the discussion of EBMM guitars, not politics, economics, materialism, globalisation, ethics or morals. And it’s not a forum for making judgements against other members.

Some people pay millions for a piece of paper with some paint splashed over it, and which some expert somewhere decrees to be art. The value of Ernie’s collection pales into significance compared to that, and yet, owning a painting isn’t usually deemed to be obsessive. Would you have been so incensed if Ernie had a $200,000 stamp or coin collection instead?

None of us has the right to judge what’s excessive for someone else, especially when the alleged excess is not hurting anyone. Ernie’s collection might seem excessive to you, but your single, solitary EBMM marks you as extremely wealthy when compared to many millions of people. To paraphrase an old proverb: don’t judge unless you want to be judged yourself.

It’s become pretty clear from posts by BP and Ernie himself that he does do a lot for others. (It should never have reached the point where Ernie needed to defend himself in such a manner.) It seems to me that your judgment was way off, and that the members of the forum have been right to be critical of your attack.

You can perceive this as being a one-sided discussion if your wish...or acknowledge that your judgment was off-base and move on to discussion of EBMM guitars. Your choice.
 

greenwizard

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I'm listening to LTE's 'When the Water Breaks"

The intro reminds me of this Sam character.

Grow up.

For me, it's always brought to mind the pain and chaos of childbirth.
I guess this thread is like that, only nothing beautiful is going to come out of it...
 

emkey

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Hey Ernie,

if you ever decide to sell your 2006LE (However I think you won't do that, at least If \i were you I wouldn't even think of selling that black beauty) please give me a call :)

You've got really great collection, that Gold Medallion looks really great (I think it'sthe only GM I've ever seen).

BTW are you fan of Dragon Ball? :D There wa a time I thoughtit would be cool to have a graphic on my previous guitar with DB teme :)

best,
Mike
 

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Sam, I think it is you who has missed the point. We get what you’re saying: the implication has been clear to begin with. You equate Ernie’s collection with wealth/materialism, and wealth with greed/selfishness. You have implied that Ernie should spend his money on helping others rather than increasing his collection.

The problem is, in making that point, you have made an uniformed assumption that Ernie doesn’t help others. That’s a judgement, and an unfair one at that. And you have offended people by making that judgement. You see this as a one-sided “discussion”. Members of this forum see it as an unprovoked/unfair/unnecessary/uninformed attack on Ernie. This forum is for the discussion of EBMM guitars, not politics, economics, materialism, globalisation, ethics or morals. And it’s not a forum for making judgements against other members.

Some people pay millions for a piece of paper with some paint splashed over it, and which some expert somewhere decrees to be art. The value of Ernie’s collection pales into significance compared to that, and yet, owning a painting isn’t usually deemed to be obsessive. Would you have been so incensed if Ernie had a $200,000 stamp or coin collection instead?

None of us has the right to judge what’s excessive for someone else, especially when the alleged excess is not hurting anyone. Ernie’s collection might seem excessive to you, but your single, solitary EBMM marks you as extremely wealthy when compared to many millions of people. To paraphrase an old proverb: don’t judge unless you want to be judged yourself.

It’s become pretty clear from posts by BP and Ernie himself that he does do a lot for others. (It should never have reached the point where Ernie needed to defend himself in such a manner.) It seems to me that your judgment was way off, and that the members of the forum have been right to be critical of your attack.

You can perceive this as being a one-sided discussion if your wish...or acknowledge that your judgment was off-base and move on to discussion of EBMM guitars. Your choice.

Well said. perfect.
 

GuitarHack

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Man, that had to be the longest political discussion ever here. That was about personal freedom, not guitars. I've learned over the course of about 1000 arguments that with stuff like this, you either:

a) get it

or

b) don't get it, and never will.

I don't know a single person with Sam's mindset who isn't miserable. To view the world as a victim, or thinking there should be some Great Arbiter of how much is too much, or what a person can do with their money...I can't imagine living life like that.

Anyway, I'm just amazed it didn't turn into an AL thread :D
 

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I was resisiting the temptation to be blatantly rude when he was still around (in case that's the reaction he was after), but now he's gone can I be the first to say.....

What a twot!

There, I feel better for that! :)

Edit: Uh oh, just realised I'm heading for my 1,000th post myself. Whilst I can't rival ernie's collection, do you think I'll be safe posting a few family pics of mine without getting my inside leg measurement (or something) questionned? :)
 
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GuitarHack

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I was resisiting the temptation to be blatantly rude when he was still around (in case that's the reaction he was after), but now he's gone can I be the first to say.....

What a twot!

There, I feel better for that! :)

LOL...is that the British spelling? ;)
 

leftyguitarblue

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I'm unemployed, broke, and me, my wife and four kids are hungry. But, I took out a third mortgage on my mobile home so I could buy these geetars....
It's called PRIORITIES, my friends....

I feel bad for ya jeffie, but don't you take my deposit and buy food!! Wait a minute.......you are a dealer right? uh oh, I better call your boss to verify.. ;)
:D:D
 

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I have so many Bongos that my wife has to go naked!*

The Sam Unit is, I would imagine, finding it exceptionally time-consuming to continue his BS here.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster touched him with the noodly appendage, let us say, and move on.

Jack






*Okay, only in the shower, really, but still.
 
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